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Eucharist in the creed?
OSV.com ^ | 07-20-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 07/23/2016 9:19:23 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: af_vet_1981
Again, you touch on the core issue; there is one holy catholic apostolic Church from the days of the Apostles unto this day.

Then the CHURCH must be doing as good of a job; as it was doing in the beginning; right?


Damn that angel who told John to write about the SINS found in the CHURCH in the earliest of days!

601 posted on 08/09/2016 5:02:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Again, you touch on the core issue; there is one holy catholic apostolic Church from the days of the Apostles unto this day.

Then the CHURCH must be doing as good of a job; as it was doing in the beginning; right?


Damn that angel who told John to write about the SINS found in the CHURCH in the earliest of days!

602 posted on 08/09/2016 5:02:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you,


Alrighty then!!


Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED. 

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.
(Leo XIII: Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895) — [p. 19, no. 44]

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

She says, "He that shall find Me shall find life, and shall have salvation from the Lord.   "Qui me invenerit, inveniet vitam, et hauriet salutem a Domino."

Listen," exclaims St. Bonaventure on these words, "listen, all you who desire the kingdom of God: honor the most Blessed Virgin Mary, and you will find life and eternal salvation."  "Audite qui ingredi cupitis regnum Dei: Virginem Mariam honorate, et invenietis vitam et salutem perpetuam."-psalt. B.V.ps.48.

 

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven. Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

 

“The Catholic Church has always and with justice put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God.”

(Leo XIII: Encyclical, Supreme Apostolatus, September 1, 1883.) — [p. 32, no. 104]



“... Yet our manner of praying to the Blessed Virgin has something in common with our worship of God so that the Church even addressed to her the words with which we pray to God: ‘Have mercy on sinners.’”

(Leo XIII: Encyclical, Augustissimae, September 12, 1897.) [p. 68; no. 302]

"Only She Can Help You"
by Father Nicholas Gruner, S.T.L., S.T.D. (Cand.)
In this letter introducing The Fatima Crusader Issue 38, Father Gruner discusses the growing lies and deception about Russia's errors and the consecration of that nation. He also reminds us that, while it is urgent that we be informed about and fight for Our Lady's cause, we must ask for Her help and intercession.

In the Fatima sanctuary, at the exact spot where Our Lady appeared, Father Gruner pays homage to Her while touching the original statue of Fatima. Father Gruner was recently graced with this rare opportunity since normally this sacred image is always protected by a glass covering which completely surrounds it all day long.

Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
In this article taken from The Glories of Mary, Saint Alphonsus explains that there are countless souls in Heaven who are there now only because Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them there. If a soul persists in true devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, She will certainly lead that soul to Heaven.

 



The Rosary
by Father Stefano Manelli, S.T.D.
It is greatly important that Our Lady insisted on the Rosary. When at Fatima She spoke of the salvation of sinners, of the ruin of souls in hell, of wars and peace, and of the future of our age. Our Lady indicated and recommended the Rosary as the prayer that saves, that brings peace, that preserves the faith.

Hail Mary, Full of Grace
by Father Stefano Manelli, S.T.D.
It is truly a treasure to have a strong devotion to Our Lady, for it is She who unites us to Jesus and brings us to Heaven, as this article explains.

Mary, Our Life, Our Sweetness, Our Hope
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
St. Alphonsus de Liguori explains how Mary is our life, how She is our sweetness, and how She is our hope.

The historical record of the worship of Mary accumulated by St. Alphonsus de Liguori who wrote “The Glories of Mary” in the year 1745, which has been since translated into English and printed again and again and again with the full affirmation and imprimatur of the official Roman Catholic Church.  In this book there is the sum of all the glories of Mary which has been vouchsafe to the Roman Catholic Church and the Church itself calls upon all its constituents to give Mary that honor she is due.  She is identified as Mary, our Queen; Mary, our mother; Mary, our life; Mary, our sweetness; Mary, our hope; Mary, our help; Mary, our Mediatress; Mary, our advocate; Mary, our guardian; and Mary, our salvation.  It is said that Mary delivers us from hell, Mary delivers us from purgatory, and Mary leads us to heaven.  And it should be said that de Liguori, who collected all the Marion dogma and devotion, was himself one of the most celebrated and revered authorities in the Roman Catholic Church.  De Liguori was himself a cardinal in life, and a saint in death.

 

Jesus said "Without Me you can do nothing". In this crisis which looms ahead of us, Our Lady has told us that we need Her help, Her intercession. We must ask for Her help with the Rosary and the Scapular.

At Fatima, Our Lady told us very plainly that "Only I can help you". Today more than ever is this so true.

Pray the Rosary and sacrifice yourself for Our Lady.

I urge you to also make some sacrifices as Our Lady of Fatima asked us. For those who are able, do some fasting. If you can, abstain from meat by eating meat only during one meal a day. Try to do this for two days, even ten days or 30 days. Of course we should abstain totally from meat every Friday.

 

 Jesus and Mary — Our Hope

It is so urgent that we reach as many souls as possible before it is too late. Let us be of good cheer and remember the words of Jesus to each of us, "It's never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary." That is why it is so important to reach the many millions of souls who do not know this, and who do not know the grave dangers lying in wait for their souls.

No, we must never lose hope. Mary is our hope. She can obtain for us what we cannot by ourselves. Read what St. Alphonsus has to say regarding confidence in Our Lady's intercession in "Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven". Father Manelli also reminds us of the importance of devotion to Our Lady. (See "Hail Mary, Full of Grace"). Our Blessed Mother tells us to turn to Her in confidence. She tells us repeatedly to ask Her intercession through the frequent fervent praying of the Rosary. (See "The Rosary"). She tells us we must pray the Rosary every day. She wants us to pray it many times a day.

 

http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg2.asp



"Blessed is he whose interior offers the Blessed Virgin Mary a place of repose." Devotion towards the Blessed Virgin remains in all who are the inheritance of Our Lord; that is to say, in all who will praise Him eternally in Heaven.

O, how many blessed souls are now in Heaven who would never have been there had not Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them thither. I made that in the heavens there should rise light that never faileth. Cardinal Hugo, in his commentary on the above text of Ecclesiasticus, says in the name of Mary, "I have caused as many saints in Heaven through Her intercession, who would never have been there but through Her ."

...in the words of St. Ambrose, "Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since Thou hast its keys." "Aperi nobis, O Virgo coelum, cujus claves habes." Nay more, the Church says, that "Thou art its gate." 

St. Antoninus tells us "that this divine Mother has already, by Her assistance and prayers, obtained Heaven for us, provided we put no obstacle in the way."23 Hence, says Abbot Guerric, "he who serves Mary, and for whom She intercedes, is as certain of Heaven as if he was already there."24 St. John Damascene also says, "that to serve Mary and be Her courtier is the greatest honor we can possibly possess; for to serve the Queen of Heaven is already to reign there, and live under Her commands is more than to govern."25 On the other hand, he adds, "that those who do not serve Mary will not be saved; for those who are deprived of the help of this great Mother are also deprived of that of Her Son and of the whole court of heaven."26

 23.  "Coeleste nobis regnum, suo interventu auxiliis, et precibus, impetravit."—Paciucch. Sup. Salve Reg. exc. I.
 24. "Qui Virgini famulatur, ita securus est de paradiso, ac si esset in paradiso."
 25. "Summus honor, servire Mariæ, et de ejus esse familia; etenim ei servire, regnare est; et ejus agi frænis, summa libertas."
 26. "Gens quæ non servierit illi, peribit; gentes destitutæ tantæ Matris auxilio, destituuntur auxilio Filii et totius curi’‘ coelestis."— De Laud. B. M. I. 4.

Cardinal Hugo http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg3.asp 

603 posted on 08/09/2016 5:04:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums
What about the doctrines of Catholicism that are said to have developed with no evidence of being taught or handed down by the Apostles?



604 posted on 08/09/2016 5:14:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Actually, homosexuality is NOT a sin....homosexual behavior is....priests are celibate and do not involve themselves in sexual activity of and kind....thus no sin.....see???

How Clintonian! (the First; that is...)

Hionest; Your Honor; I was just sitting at my desk when this strange sensation washed over me.

I wasn't doing ANYTHING!

605 posted on 08/09/2016 5:29:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

1,600 years...

2,000 years...

At this point; what difference does it make?

Rome; even as eternity is passing by; will STILL be the one that RECORDED the FACT that seven early Catholic churches were really screwed up.

But; we are ASSURED (by the likes of terycarl ETAL); that she is doing MUCH better now.


606 posted on 08/09/2016 5:33:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
that statement from a member of one of the thousands of different "denominations"

Still repeating an undocumented LIE I see.

You are one, shameless dude!

607 posted on 08/09/2016 5:34:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
Naturally, I disagree, as usual. MANY of them are anything but celibate, but what do I know?
608 posted on 08/09/2016 5:40:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: knarf; metmom; Elsie; boatbums; terycarl; MHGinTN
Terrycarl is really a fundamentalist, Baptist Sunday School teacher and all these threads are nothing more than an ongoing test to see if you "got" biblical instruction in sound doctrine 101

Knarfster, you may be right. He might just be Harfing us. (Named after state department idiot Marie Harf) Anyway, if you tell someone the truth 47,000,009 times, and they still come up with the same rot gut, doesn't it make you wonder if you still have any dust left on your shoes, to shake off?
I don't want to say that I am happier than a camel on Wednesday, that I am an ex Catholic, so I won't say it. All that I will say, is that I have assurance of salvation.
I guess that is making me feel a little presumptuous today. If someone can read 1st John 5:11-13, and come away with a belief that is 180 degrees in opposition to that CLEAR teaching, maybe there is NO hope for that individual. Make sense? 😀😄😇🔥

609 posted on 08/09/2016 8:04:38 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Mark17
Of course it makes sense, but then .. I'm a child of the King !

One of MY favorites is the line, "Well ... we're ALL God's children"

To which I reply, John 1:11 and 12


John 1:11-12King James Version (KJV)

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:


(my emphasis)

610 posted on 08/09/2016 8:09:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true ... and it pisses people off)
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To: knarf

You are correct sir. He came unto his own, and His own received Him not. Why should we be surprised, when the vast majority of the world’s population rejects him? He predicted it. He said (Matt 7:14) only a few go to Heaven. I don’t have any idea what percentage of the world’s population will go to Hell, but I will make a wild guess, and say about 90%. That’s pretty bad, but He provided a way. Most people reject it.


611 posted on 08/09/2016 8:38:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: knarf
LOL
612 posted on 08/09/2016 3:19:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: knarf; Elsie; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN
One of MY favorites is the line, "Well ... we're ALL God's children"

I would suspect the false religionists might think that. While God is the creator of all people. He is the not the Father of any, unless they are born again believers. I am sure that the false religionists among us, will not like that, but so be it. What they think about it, will have no bearing on it.

613 posted on 08/09/2016 7:08:56 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: Elsie
On the other hand, he adds, "that those who do not serve Mary will not be saved

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

614 posted on 08/09/2016 7:10:00 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Mark17; ealgeone; HossB86; metmom; imardmd1; daniel1212; Elsie; caww; Iscool; Tennessee Nana; ...
You are so very correct, Sir. Those born from above have the spark of Holy Spirit LIFE in their human spirit> Without that spark, one is not in the family!

No priest can control God, so only GOD can put HIS LIFE in a person. To believe in Whom GOD sent for our salvation is to be born from above.

That Holy Spirit spark is so very important when the Snatching away of the CHURCH, the TRUE BODY of CHRIST Believers happens. The presence of that spark of Holy Spirit Life will resonate to the Angel call and Trumpet sound, to instantly transform the believers into immortal, glorified beings who will disappear from the field of senses of the unsaved.

The believers will be as invisible as the being to whom the hand was attached in Daniel Chapter Five. So many will be snatched into the clouds that there may be a visible 'glow-trail' but individuals will no longer be in the same spacetime coordinates as those not raptured.

John wrote in one of his letters that when Jesus appears in the Air, we shall see Him as He really is, in His glorified state, because when He comes we shall be like HIM. We shall be in the same spacetime coordinate system as He is, as HE used to enter the locked and shuttered room, as He used to leave the stone tomb without rolling away the stone, as He used to disappear from view of the two disciples for whom He blessed and broke the bread.

615 posted on 08/09/2016 7:35:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; boatbums

Good posts, 614 and 615. Thank you.


616 posted on 08/09/2016 7:51:09 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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To: boatbums

It ain’t WORSHIP if you can get away calling it ADORATION or VENERATION.


617 posted on 08/10/2016 4:09:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
He might just be Harfing us.

UGH!

That's what my cats do before hacking up a hairball!



618 posted on 08/10/2016 4:16:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
He might just be Harfing us.

Or just another Chatbot.

One about as adept as a Version 3.17 Eliza.


http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

619 posted on 08/10/2016 4:17:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
That's what my cats do before hacking up a hairball!

Ewwww. Disgusting. Harfing and hacking.

620 posted on 08/10/2016 7:36:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forevermore endure.)
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