Posted on 07/13/2016 7:00:08 AM PDT by marshmallow
Two independent forensic medicine departments studied a sample of the Host, noting it was human heart tissue. Bishop Zbigniew Kiernikowski recognized the miracle earlier this year. And on July 2, he installed the Host in a reliquary for veneration.
On Christmas Day 2013 at St. Hyacinth’s Shrine in Legnica, an industrial city of 100,000 in southwest Poland, a priest accidentally dropped a consecrated Host on the floor. In accordance with Church procedures, the Host was placed in a dish filled with holy water to dissolve. After two weeks, the Communion wafer dissolved only partially, and a red substance appeared on it.
The bishop of Legnica at the time, Stefan Cichy, formed a committee to study this unusual phenomenon. Two independent forensic medicine departments from universities in Wroclaw and Szczecin studied a sample of the Host. Researchers from Szczecin found human DNA, as well as tissue from the human heart, with alterations that frequently appear in a state of agony.
This year, Bishop Cichy’s successor, Bishop Zbigniew Kiernikowski, recognized the miracle. “I became the bishop of Legnica in June 2014, after the event in St. Hyacinth’s parish. When I learned that my predecessor, Bishop Cichy, had formed a diocesan committee and asked forensic medicine departments to study this, I confirmed the committee’s members, and everything took its course,” Bishop Kiernikowski told the Register in written correspondence. “Then we had the results from Szczecin and Wroclaw. Now we will have to wait for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s decision before officially calling it supernatural.”
On April 10, Bishop Kiernikowski read a communiqué at a Mass celebrated in St. Hyacinth’s Shrine in which he described what happened to the Host and said that he believed the possible miracle appears authentic.
“I asked Father Andrzej Ziombra, the parish priest at St. Hyacinth’s...........
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Are the details of these tests available to the general public?
Can I claim Mark 9:24?
Does this mean we could now clone Jesus?
What? Catholics aren’t even Christians. Must be Mary’s heart tissue. //sarc//
Radioactive topic between Catholics and kwazy evangelicals.
In the transubstantiation view, the body just turned into... the body and (in it) blood.
In a symbolic view, a symbol just developed... features that “look like” the body and (in it) blood.
Would it be considered blasphemy to have this thing DNA sequenced?
At any rate, I would submit that to all Christians, the Christ that the world is going to see in you is the one you take with you when you leave the church service. If you leave Christ behind at the church, however He appeared — then this is not possible.
Forensic scientists could, at least, determine His blood type and perhaps even some particulars about His phenotype (eye color, etc.).
Regards,
Type O, Rh negative? (Universal donor)
Needs to be AB positive (same as Shroud of Turin and other Eucharistic miracles), or it’s a problem.
If there could be a non-invasive DNA then perhaps not. But anything that involves "disposal" in a way that is not usually done with the Holy Eucharist then it would probably be a sacrilege.
I'm intrigued by your laying out a case whereby even someone against transubstantiation can potentially see this as a miracle. Your posts have just been great reading lately on a whole bunch of subjects.
To further refine the transubstantiation argument, we would say that bread turned into the body during the Consecration at Mass. This wouldn't be any real change. What is happening now (if genuine) is that the accidence of the bread (color, taste, atomic structure) has changed to match its substance (the Body of Our Lord).
Intresting meaning (I am a symbolic camper). This is the universal recipient.
“Our lives are hidden with Christ in God.”
The more I find myself living (and giving myself to) the presence of Christ, the more I find myself encountering mysteries that transcend a lot of easy theologies.
I’ve long gotten a subjective observation that something special in terms of partaking of the effects of Christ’s body and blood happens even at an explicitly symbolic communion. Does this mean other things cannot transpire at communions? I don’t want to put an artificial lid on God. However overall, it would be expected to follow the biblical outline. I observe taking Christ (or giving oneself to Christ, part of a mutual act) as something that is guaranteed to have effects if it is genuine. The New Testament would be mere woofing if that were not so.
There is a whole Universe of mysteries out there. We have only seen a few.
Not at this time when things are still being investigated and determined.
It’s a huge puzzle, we must consider all the Pieces.
“Type O, Rh negative? (Universal donor)”
UNIVERSAL DONOR - YES!!
Ping to more interesting discussion as the thread develops.
“Little children, keep yourselves from idols.”
Apostle John
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