what used to be a joke, is now an honest question...
Posted on 05/25/2016 3:57:03 AM PDT by JosephJames
A better question to ask—is the Pope the False Prophet? I think so.
“Amoris Laetitia” is not binding and is little more than dicta in its formulation and less in authority due to its conflict with basic Church teaching, ecclesiology, metaphysics and teliology. It is the “Star Wars Holiday Special” of papal documents, and best unacknowledged the way Carrie Fisher denies that there was a “Star Wars Holiday Special”.
That’s a very long mashup.
Pray for a new Pope, as soon as possible.
I agree.
But the problem is the effects on the Church, the Catholics and the world at large.
“Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2Cor 11:14).
“Then one considers the greater part of the Catholics are convinced that what the Pope says is infallible, the game is done. Even if one protests that a letter to Scalfari or an interview to whoever, might be less than the opinion of a private doctor, in the era of media technology, the effect that will be produced will be much greater than any solemn pronouncement. In fact, the more the gesture or the talk is formally small and insignificant, the more it will have an effect and will be considered as unassailable and beyond criticism.” (“Letter to fellow Priests”; http://spir-food.blogspot.it/2014/12/letter-to-fellow-priests.html).
If the Catholic church is the One True Church and the pope is the vicar of Christ, how can that work?
How does a church that’s claimed to be Christ’s church put into position a man who’s supposed to be free from error in faith and morals like Francis?
Did the Holy Spirit lead the college of cardinals in selecting the man or not? If He did, then how could He put into position someone who so clearly does NOT represent Christ, and if He didn’t, where’s the proof for the claim Catholics make about being free from error and Christ’s vicar?
There’s a huge disconnect between what Catholics claim and would like to believe and the reality in which they find themselves.
Just as Christ was crucified and buried 2000 years ago, so too His Body, the Church, will be crucified and buried in this period of the “great tribulation” (Mt 24:21). Only after this, when it seems that the Church is totally dead and buried, when Satan and his very numerous followers seem to have total victory, then the “Woman clothed with the sun” (Rev 12:1) will crush the head of the “great red dragon” (Rev 12:3), the ancient serpent (Gen 3:15), and the Immaculate Heart of Mary will triumph (Fatima, 1917) and there will be the Resurrection of Jesus with His Body, the purified Church!
Pope Francis has to be understood in the light of Matthew 11:16-19. He doesn’t have any ability to change doctrine or to establish practices that contradict doctrine, and he knows it. But he also knows that Sexual Revolution 2.0 has made people deaf to what the Church is saying. So he has switched to playing the pipe to get people to tune in. In an odd way — as the lengthy screed above shows — it’s working.
Let’s boil it down; Amoris Laetitia is the club for perverts to hit the faithful on the head to get them to accept their conduct, and the faithful will not take this situation forever.
When I read something like this, I become more convinced that, at least in the area of orthopraxis, and in much of orthodoxy as well, Biblical Lutherans (LCMS etc.) are more Catholic, in both senses of the term, than the Catholics.
The purpose of reformation is to return the church to where it is meant by God to be, not to split the church into pieces—but it always ends in splits, because those who do not walk with God must walk away.
WHOA!
Nothing in Catholic theology claims that the Pope is a "a man ... free from error in faith and morals"!!
The claim is that, if he teaches something definitively, as to be held by the whole church under pain of heresy, then that teaching will be preserved from error by the Holy Spirit. It's a claim about his teaching, not about the man himself.
NO Pope has ever been personally "free from error in ... morals". Some of them have been big sinners. Some have been little sinners. All of them have been sinners.
what used to be a joke, is now an honest question...
So Christ’s prayer “that they may be one, as you, Father, and I are one” (John 17) was essentially a waste of time?
That sir, would be an understatement of Biblical proportions.
What you say usually happened in the past. But now “those who do not walk with God” decided not to walk away and to take over the Church. This is like the spoiled arrogant children throwing out the parents who tell the children what is best for the children (the Catechism of the Catholic Church for adults) and the children not only say no, but they throw out the CCC, and anyone else in the “old time religion” which still holds to the Ten Commandments!
What you say is the real sad part. Even sadder is the fact that very few are awake to the hidden poison of throwing out or rather changing the Ten Commandments the way they like. The Ten Commandments are explained very well by the Church and summarized very well in the Catechism of the Catholic Church for adults. Few Catholics want this book because they want to interpret the Bible the way they want Christianity without the cross, and still convince themselves that “I’m OK”!
God does not send people to hell. People who invented the “truth” (small “t”) all their lives, when they die and when they see the Truth (big “T”) Who is God, they choose the only other place that exists for all eternity, where there is not God. That place is called Hell!
More wordplay from the Catholics. Every word this man utters in public is teaching and every action he does is teaching. People see it and hear it and think "well that's what I need to do or think". To try and protect your denomination and this man with "He wasn't speaking ex-cathedra so it doesn't matter". If that's the case he needs to take a vow of silence until he has something to say worth saying. The whole life of Jesus was teaching in every word and deed. If the Pope were actually "the vicar of Christ", he would do the same. You may as well have Satan as Pope if you're going to play word games on what is teaching and what is not.
“He wasn’t speaking ex-cathedra so it doesn’t matter”.
I’m starting to wonder if the Pope ever does speak ex-cathedra.
Anyone have an example of recent ex-cathedra pronouncements which aren’t long settled and widely accepted (in and out of Catholicism)?
That is a pretty funny statement there from a Catholic. How about the Commandment to keep the Sabbath day holy? The Sabbath day, you remember that don't you? The seventh day of the week. Luke 4:16 tells us Jesus had a custom of worshiping on the Sabbath Day. Are we to do the same? Exodus 20:8 starts off with Remember the Sabbath as if people would forget it. Hidden poison indeed.
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