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To: reaganaut

Auditioning for Godhood? I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.

My goal in life as a Mormon is to humble myself before my Heavenly Father and follow his commandments to the best of my ability while seeking forgiveness of my sins through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ.

If this is in someway unacceptable behavior to you, the I am sorry. I am firm in my conviction that it is acceptable to my Heavenly Father.


9 posted on 04/25/2016 5:43:06 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: teppe

//Auditioning for Godhood? I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.//

Hogwash Tepid... YOU know as well as I do that Mormonism teaches we can become gods of our own universes. Do I need to give you sources from LDS.org for that?


13 posted on 04/25/2016 5:49:39 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe

//My goal in life as a Mormon is to humble myself before my Heavenly Father and follow his commandments to the best of my ability while seeking forgiveness of my sins through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ.//

Finish the thought...in order to be exalted in the Celestial Kingdom (earn godhood). Again, do you want sources?


14 posted on 04/25/2016 5:50:19 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe

//If this is in someway unacceptable behavior to you, the I am sorry. I am firm in my conviction that it is acceptable to my Heavenly Father.//

Thinking you can work your way to salvation(again LDS.org shows this is LDS doctrine) is not acceptable to God and insults Christ.


17 posted on 04/25/2016 5:51:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-Mormon, Now Christian - I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: teppe
"Auditioning for Godhood? I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.

This should be added to the article as a potential lie #11.

Every mormon male, if he completes the "works", may possibly ascend to godhood and have his own planet. It would be strange if you've never heard of this teppe.

18 posted on 04/25/2016 5:52:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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I have worked with many mormons over the years and have found them to always be good people.

That being said...

Why do you always bring two mormons fishing with you?

Because if you bring only one, he will drink all of the beer


28 posted on 04/25/2016 6:02:49 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: teppe

“Auditioning for Godhood? I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.”

Need to brush up on D&C, maybe?

“19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.

20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.” Doctrines & Covenants 132:19-20, Joseph Smith


45 posted on 04/25/2016 6:21:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: teppe

Unfortunately the Jesus you mention is not the Jesus of the Christian church. Gully God and fully human a part of the trinity. That is not the Jesus of the Mormon church


50 posted on 04/25/2016 6:30:09 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: teppe

I’ve talked with mormons who don’t even realize these words are in the Bible.

GALATIANS 1:

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


76 posted on 04/25/2016 7:09:56 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: teppe
I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.

You'll be a tough one to get to see the Light; but rest assured; many prayers are going to be said on your behalf.

And many MORMON documents will be shown on FR for you and others to read and ponder.

90 posted on 04/25/2016 7:36:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Auditioning for Godhood?

I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about.

Here ya go!


The Doctrine and Covenants

 

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


92 posted on 04/25/2016 7:39:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
My goal in life as a Mormon is to humble myself before my Heavenly Father and follow his commandments to the best of my ability while seeking forgiveness of my sins through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ.

Yes; that is a good place to be.

But; according to many MORMON teachers and leaders; that is not the ONLY place a Mormon needs to be:


 
 
 
 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

94 posted on 04/25/2016 7:41:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe; reaganaut; All
Auditioning for Godhood? I’m 55 and have been LDS my whole life and I have no Idea what you are talking about. My goal in life as a Mormon is to humble myself before my Heavenly Father and follow his commandments to the best of my ability while seeking forgiveness of my sins through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. If this is in someway unacceptable behavior to you, the I am sorry. I am firm in my conviction that it is acceptable to my Heavenly Father.

Hmmm....

Some Mormons deny that Lds teach that you "get your own world as a god." For the scoop, see Mormon Professors Confuse Doctrine and Rumor (especially note post #5 of that thread) Here is a sample quotation from a Mormon "prophet":
“To become like him we must have ALL the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an EARTH LIKE THIS ONE WE ARE ON and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. WE WILL BECOME gods and HAVE JURISDICTION OVER WORLDS, AND THESE WORLDS WILL BE PEOPLED BY OUR OWN OFFSPRING. WE WILL HAVE AN ENDLESS ETERNITY FOR THIS."
Source: Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:48, as cited by The Mormon Church’s annual Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, 1978-79, p. 131
“Eternal life…In fact…means exaltation. He who receives the greatest portion of eternal life becomes a God.” (Milton R. Hunter, an LDS Seventy, The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 11)
Exaltation means godhood, creatorship. ‘As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 53)
“…immortality is to live forever in the resurrected state, and by the grace of God all men will gain this unending continuance of life. But ONLY THOSE who obey the fullness of the gospel law will inherit eternal life. (D&C 29:43-44)…it is the kind, status, type, and quality of life that God himself enjoys. Thus those who gain eternal life receive exaltation; they are sons of God, joint-heirs with Christ…they overcome all things, have all power, and receive the fullness of the Father. THEY ARE GODS.” Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie, p. 237, 1979 ed.

ALL: Joseph Fielding Smith was part of the infamous Smith clan...no small authority. He was the 10th "prophet" of the Lds sect. Kimball was the 12th "prophet" of said same sect.

So here we have four general authorities above teaching how Lds can become "gods" -- and yet this FREEPER claims he's never heard of such a teaching?

160 posted on 04/26/2016 1:27:27 PM PDT by Colofornian
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