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1 posted on 12/09/2015 1:36:26 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/09/2015 1:36:46 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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I wish Catholics would make up their minds. Did Mary need a savior or didn’t she? (Hint: She called God “my savior.”)


3 posted on 12/09/2015 1:40:01 PM PST by fwdude
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“Now, those lines make sense if Mary is another sinner just like us, who needs to be delivered from sin.”

Yup. Otherwise Christ was born to someone who neither needed a savior nor could pass on the reality of being fully human. The whole POINT of incarnation was that He be “one of us”, and not some perfect being utterly unable to relate to the human condition, who would _not_ be subject to temptation nor original sin.


5 posted on 12/09/2015 1:45:04 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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Lyrics:
Mary did you know that your baby boy will some day walk on water?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will save our sons and daughters?
Did you know that your baby boy has come to make you new?
This child that you've delivered, will soon deliver you.

Mary did you know that your baby boy will give sight to a blind man?
Mary did you know that your baby boy will calm a storm with his hand?
Did you know that your baby boy has walked where angels trod?
And when you kiss your little baby, you have kissed the face of God.

Oh Mary did you know

The blind will see, the deaf will hear, the dead will live again.
The lame will leap, the dumb will speak, the praises of the lamb

Mary did you know that your baby boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary did you know that your baby boy would one day rule the nations?
Did you know that your baby boy is heaven's perfect Lamb?
This sleeping child you're holding is the great I am

6 posted on 12/09/2015 1:45:06 PM PST by EveningStar
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>> But if Mary is a sinner in need of a savior, then she cannot be the worthy vessel in whom the All-Holy God takes on human nature as the Word-Made-Flesh.

Oh yes she could — because sovereign Almighty GOD chose Mary, of sinful flesh like you and I, to aid in implementing His perfect Plan for our salvation.

There is absolutely zero scriptural evidence that Mary is not without sin. That’s a roman catholic fantasy, nothing more. You, mortal catholic, are placing yourself in the position of dictating on behalf of the Almighty what He is able and what He is not able to do. That’s dangerous ground to occupy.


7 posted on 12/09/2015 1:45:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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Ayup, this is a Protestant song. So don’t sing it if you don’t want it, Catholics. Simple enough?


8 posted on 12/09/2015 1:45:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Where in the Bible does it say Mary was sinless? It says she was favored by God, and if she was sinless, what about her mother? wouldn't Mary's mother have to be sinless to be worthy of carrying her?

Jesus was the only sinless person because he didn't inherit man's sin nature which is passed on through one's earthly father. Mary had a father which meant she had a sin nature. She obviously was found worthy by God to find his favor, but no where does the Bible say that she had to be sinless.

10 posted on 12/09/2015 1:47:40 PM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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Romans 3:23
Acts 4:9-12, particularly verse 12


11 posted on 12/09/2015 1:47:52 PM PST by Amendment10
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Oh, not this again.


12 posted on 12/09/2015 1:48:55 PM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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MERRY CHRISTMAS!


20 posted on 12/09/2015 1:57:22 PM PST by onedoug
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“My soul praises the Lord; my heart rejoices in God my Savior, because he has shown his concern for...”

Mary called him “God my Savior,” in her song because she recognized her need of a savior as well.


22 posted on 12/09/2015 1:58:45 PM PST by Lake Living
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“the lyrics depend upon the dogma of the Immaculate Conception being false”

Yep! Good song.


26 posted on 12/09/2015 2:00:52 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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The Kenny Rogers version of “Mary Did You Know” was popular 30 years ago. It is also lovely.
I far prefer it over Aiken, because all I can see of the man is his male “partner” and baby, the opposite of the mother-father family even the divinely created Jesus was raised in.


27 posted on 12/09/2015 2:00:53 PM PST by tbw2
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“But if Mary is a sinner in need of a savior, then she cannot be the worthy vessel in whom the All-Holy God takes on human nature as the Word-Made-Flesh.”

The truth: Mary is a sinner.

The truth: God chose a sinner to be the month of His Son, Jesus Christ.

The truth: If Mary was sinless (as Catholicism teaches), then would not her entire lineage have to be sinless? All the way back to Adam and Eve, who we know were not sinless?

The teachings of Catholicism are very strange.


28 posted on 12/09/2015 2:01:05 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: NYer

On this point, my Catholic friends and I disagree.

I like the song. A lot.


31 posted on 12/09/2015 2:04:36 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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Tossing out a big chunk of red meat to us poor protestants. I hope no one takes the bait.


33 posted on 12/09/2015 2:06:23 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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What is wrong with asking the questions? what if they are rhetorical? Or could they just have been written in the form a question for people find the truth?


36 posted on 12/09/2015 2:10:52 PM PST by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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Christmas is unreal.

Yeshua was born in September of 3 BC.

December 25 does have significance though. It is the day that the babies born to the virgins that were raped by the sun god priests the Easter previous are placed in the arms of the bronze idol of Ashtor, in the center of the bonfire.
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46 posted on 12/09/2015 2:18:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Got to remember that the song is for the general Christian community.


48 posted on 12/09/2015 2:20:10 PM PST by Biggirl ("Otne Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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Jimmy Durante has the best Christmas songs. When I want to go classical, I go Nutcracker Suite.


50 posted on 12/09/2015 2:20:41 PM PST by Fhios (The world holds its breath for the 2016 U.S election. White knuckles gripping the handrails.)
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