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“I’M THE FRICKEN POPE, SO SHUT THE HELL UP, ” he explained.
What's Up With the Synod ^ | October 17, 2015 | Hilary White

Posted on 10/18/2015 10:17:38 AM PDT by ebb tide

Pope Francis marks 50th anniversary of Synod’s institution

“Finally,” explained Pope Francis, “the synodal process culminates in listening to the Bishop of Rome, called upon to speak authoritatively [It. pronunciare] as ‘Shepherd and Teacher of all Christians’: not on the basis of his personal beliefs, but as the supreme witness of the Faith of the whole Church, the guarantor of the Church’s conformity with and obedience to the will of God, to the Gospel of Christ and the Tradition of the Church.”

And in totally, we swear, completely unrelated news…

Traits of narcissistic personality disorder: The most telling thing that narcissists do is contradict themselves. They will do this virtually in the same sentence, without even stopping to take a breath. It can be trivial (e.g., about what they want for lunch) or it can be serious (e.g., about whether or not they love you). When you ask them which one they mean, they’ll deny ever saying the first one, though it may literally have been only seconds since they said it — really, how could you think they’d ever have said that? You need to have your head examined!

UPDATE: an explanatory comment from my Guy Inside

“He’s fudging… he’s strongly implying infallibility, but not saying that he will pronounce infallibly.

“He wants everyone to come away with ‘Whoa… this is infallible. We hear and obey!’ but leaving plausible deniability to say, ‘No, no, I never claimed this particular bit was infallible….'”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: francis; infallibility; sinnod
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To: Steelfish

You really don’t understand declarations of annulment, do you?


121 posted on 10/18/2015 4:46:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Steelfish

Christ told the woman to go and sin no more.

What part of that do you not comprehend?


122 posted on 10/18/2015 4:48:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Steelfish
Wow....on another thread Kirsten was tossed overboard as she's still a dimocrat. Today she's on the good list....is that because she's prominent?

Is you list an all inclusive list of people leaving Christianity or some other belief for Catholicism or just a list of famous people?

123 posted on 10/18/2015 4:49:38 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

I think it appears that it is you who have no clue of the history of the Church’s annulments and how at one time it was used for the ruling elite. That it must now be streamlined and extended to ordinary Catholics invites your ire and the scandalous postings you make on Pope Francis even if some of us don’t agree with all his musings.

An early historical reference to Catholic annulment involves Pope Nicholas I (858-867), who refused to grant an annulment to King Lothair II of Lotharingia so that Lothair could marry his mistress Waldrada, but a Council pronounced in favour of the annulment, resulting in Nicholas disbanding the Council. Regardless of the outcome for Lothair, it seems that Church annulments were an established fact, at least for the ruling classes.

When Louis XII became king of France in 1498, he had his marriage with Joan annulled by Pope Alexander VI so that he could marry Anne of Brittany.

Fast forward five centuries later, and we have a Church in disrepair. The call to St. Francis was “Go repair my Church,” and its been picked up by the current Vicar of Christ in consultation with his Bishops in a duly called Synod. Picking up blog posts with titles like “I’m the Fricken Pope, So Shut the Hell Up,” is the stuff of enemies of the Church. Even the conservatives like Archbishops Chaput and Burke would be ashamed of this vile diatribe.


124 posted on 10/18/2015 4:58:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

You have switched from Communion to divorced and remarried to valid decisions of annulments.

We were both talking about divorced and remarried and your nonsense about “Living Waters”.


125 posted on 10/18/2015 5:03:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mad Dawg; ebb tide

Thanks very much for this post.

I remember well the grief that Paul VI went through. Hundreds of American priests had already prepared a signed draft of rebuttal to the encyclical.

He came through with Humanae Vitae. And his predictions of what would come if the encyclical was ignored have come about.

I remember Archbishop Fulton Sheen telling about the time he had a conversation with Pope Paul VI; the Pope told Bishop Sheen: “Every night when I put my head on my pillow I lay it on a crown of thorns.”

While mentioning Pope Paul VI, I would like to add this; his little-known, short encyclical -..”Mense Maio”....is well worth reading, especially in these very critical days.


126 posted on 10/18/2015 5:10:30 PM PDT by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: Steelfish

How about Henry VIII?

He thought the same as you.


127 posted on 10/18/2015 5:10:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; Steelfish

Who granted Henry an annulment?


128 posted on 10/18/2015 5:11:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Steelfish

Thank you very much for this post.


129 posted on 10/18/2015 5:13:17 PM PDT by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: ealgeone

Good thing then that according to Protestants there is no need for confession. I’ll just declare myself “saved” and make it all better thereby.


130 posted on 10/18/2015 5:50:42 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
For those who believe in Christ, their sins are already forgiven and have been nailed to the Cross per Colossians 2:13-14.

We do not lose salvation if/when we sin. The Greek in John 5:24 confirms this. Actually, the English is pretty good at conveying the message.

Do we ask for the forgiveness of sins? Yes we do. Is it to keep our salvation? No.

It is to keep our relationship/fellowship right with God.

131 posted on 10/18/2015 5:55:45 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: The Cuban

Is that funny??? Tell us what that verse means...Matt 19:28...

132 posted on 10/18/2015 6:03:15 PM PDT by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: xone
Catholics wrote it. Moses, Ezekiel, Isaiah et al were Catholic? LOL.

Stop lol....The authors, prophets were certainly contributors to what became the bible, but it was the Catholics who compiled these writings, both old and new testament,were edited, transcribed, combined, preserved....whatever...just so you could have a book with all this stuff in it....without them, the stuff would undoubtedly exist, but you'd never know where and how to get it to read......

133 posted on 10/18/2015 6:03:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!)
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To: ealgeone

Love the faulty rationalization of heresy.


134 posted on 10/18/2015 6:04:12 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Fundamentalists, keeping ignorance alive for another generation. :-)

Well if it isn't the bible expert...Well give it a shot...What'sGod talking about in that verse

135 posted on 10/18/2015 6:07:00 PM PDT by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: Steelfish
Communion is a one-o-one Divine Encounter not some meaningless ritual or a liberal label to be applied for branding the fallen.

THE SIXTH COMMANDMENT

"Thou shalt not commit adultery"

THE POSITION OF THIS COMMANDMENT IN THE DECALOGUE IS MOST SUITABLE

"The bond between man and wife is one of the closest, and nothing can be more gratifying to both than to know that they are objects of mutual and special affection. On the other hand, nothing inflicts deeper anguish than to feel that the legitimate love which one owes the other has been transferred elsewhere. Rightly, then, and in its natural order, is the Commandment which protects human life against the hand of the murderer, followed by that which forbids adultery and which aims to prevent anyone from injuring or destroying by such a crime the holy and honorable union of marriage - a union which is generally the source of ardent affection and love..."

catechism of the council of trent

"Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord." (1 Cor 11:27)

136 posted on 10/18/2015 6:07:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: terycarl

Not to mention the fact that all New Testament authors were Catholic.


137 posted on 10/18/2015 6:09:45 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB

The heresy is with you not believing the words of Christ.

138 posted on 10/18/2015 6:13:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Steelfish
The process is costly, time-consuming, and has the qualities of a trial by jury. Annulments are not just for the rich and well-connected.

Almost always, no charge at all...it is helpful if you can help pay for long distance telephone, registered mail, postage and stationery....but seldom if a fee required.

139 posted on 10/18/2015 6:13:45 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!)
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To: ealgeone

Thanks, but we had large buildings by then...anyway, you’re right, there were plenty of mistakes made in the early years, Christ, however, had promised to watch over His flock and protect her from serious error....He did just that, we matured, grew, and turned into a magnificent organization with Christ at its head.


140 posted on 10/18/2015 6:20:19 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!)
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