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What is the source of the Church’s authority?
http://catholicsay.com ^ | June 2, 2015

Posted on 07/26/2015 7:30:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

The source & nature of Church authority is one of the major issues that beginning Catholics have to examine and come to terms with.

The Catholic Church makes an amazing claim: it teaches, governs, and sanctifies with the authority of Christ himself.

Catholics believe that this gift of Church authority is one of the jewels that Christ has given to us as an aid to our salvation.

Keep three things in mind:

There is a large amount of evidence in Scripture to support the Catholic Church’s claim to authority, as well as from early Church history. The nature and scope of Church authority are widely misunderstood. Rejection of this claim is usually based on the common misconception of “misplaced worship” — the accusation that Catholics worship the something else (the Church, the Pope, Mary, the Saints, etc.) instead of God. After briefly stating the Church’s teaching on this subject, we’ll look at some of the major Scriptural sources for this doctrine. Catholic Church authority in brief

Christ himself is the source of the Church’s authority.

The New Testament shows that Christ deliberately created his Church to be the vehicle of his continuing mission in the world. He promised to remain present in his Church for all time, and he lovingly guides it through the presence of the Holy Spirit.

To ensure the success of this mission, Christ gave his Church the ability to teach, govern and sanctify with Christ’s own authority. The Apostles appointed successors to ensure that the Gospel would continue to be handed on faithfully as “the lasting source of all life for the Church” (Vatican II, “Lumen Gentium” 20; also Catechism #860).

The source and guarantee of this Church authority is Christ’s continuing presence in his Church — “Lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age” (Mt 28:20).

The purpose of this authority is to give the Church the ability to teach without error about the essentials of salvation: “On this rock, I will build My Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it” (Mt 16:18).

The scope of this authority concerns the official teachings of the Church on matters of faith, morals, and worship (liturgy & sacraments). We believe that, because of Christ’s continued presence and guarantee, his Church cannot lead people astray with its official teachings (which are distinct from the individual failings and opinions of its members, priests, bishops, and Popes).

Church authority in Scripture

The New Testament bears witness in numerous places to the fact of Church authority. It clearly shows that Christ gave his Apostles his own authority to continue his mission.

(Remember that Catholics view the Bible as one of two definitive witnesses to divine Revelation. Christ taught many other things to the Apostles that are not recorded in Scripture; we call this Catholic Tradition, literally meaning “that which is handed on”. Tradition is the full, living faith of the Apostles as received from Christ.)

Here are some of the more important Scriptural references that address Church authority.

And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.” (Mt 28:18-20)

This brief passage contains several critical points about Church authority: Jesus tells the Apostles that the authority he is giving them derives from his own, divine authority. (“All authority…” / “Go therefore”.) The Apostles’ authority and mission comes directly from Christ himself. The nature of this mission is to lead or govern (“make disciples”), sanctify (“baptizing them”), and teach (“teaching them to observe”). Christ promises to remain present with them always in support of this mission (“I am with you always”). Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, even so I send you.” (Jn 20:21)

In this passage, Jesus commissions the Apostles with continuing his own mission. Again, this mission has its source in the divine authority of the Father. (CCC 859) “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.” (Mt 10:40) And: “He who hears you hears Me, and he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” (Lk 10:16)

Here, Christ explicitly identifies himself with the Apostles: this identification is so complete that accepting or rejecting the Apostles is the same as accepting or rejecting Christ. What’s more, both passages compare the union between Christ and his Apostles to that of the Son and the Father within the Holy Trinity.

“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build My Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.” (Mt 16:18-19)

This is a key passage for understanding the Catholic doctrine of Church authority: Christ’s deliberate intent to establish a new Church (“I will build My Church”) His choice of Peter as the foundation, or head, of this Church Christ confers on Peter his own divine authority (“the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven”) for ruling the Church (“bind” and “loose”). This power to “bind and loose”, repeated also in Mt 18:18 to the Apostles as a whole, is understood as applying first to Peter and his successors (the Pope), and then to the rest of the Apostles and their successors (the other Bishops) in union with Peter. The Acts of the Apostles (a New Testament book) provides abundant evidence of how Church authority was practiced during the Apostolic age (during the lives of the Apostles themselves, after the Resurrection and Ascension of Christ).

In Acts, we see repeated examples of the Apostles teaching, governing, and sanctifying (baptizing and confirming, as well as “breaking the bread”).

One of the most striking passages in Acts tells how the Apostles describe their decision about whether pagan converts should submit to the Jewish laws of circumcision. They say, “For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us” that those laws of the Old Covenant should not apply (Acts 15:28). This passage shows:

The Apostles knew that they had the governing power necessary to decide this question (this is a huge point: they’re overriding the ritual law of the Old Covenant!); and They are conscious of the presence of the Holy Spirit who is guiding their decision, so ultimately it is God who has decided the matter. This passage in Acts would be meaningless, even blasphemous, if the Apostles did not in fact possess the authority of Christ, supported and guided by the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Finally, the various Epistles in the New Testament (the letters of Paul, Peter, etc.) likewise give many examples of the Apostles exercising their teaching and governing offices. In fact, those letters only exist because the Apostles knew that it was their role to teach and lead the various local churches!

The nature & scope of Church authority

It is important to repeat that this authority exists so that Christ can continue to guide his Church in the continuing work of salvation. Church authority is entirely at the service of that work.

We believe that Christ desired the Church to have this authority so that we could be sure of essential matters of the Faith.

The scope of this authority is limited to things that are essential to our salvation: faith, morals, and worship (the sacraments and liturgy). Additionally, since the Church’s authority is at the service of Christ’s gift of divine Revelation, the Church takes care to show how its declarations about faith and morals are consistent with that Revelation (Scripture and Tradition).

It’s important to see this authority as something other than a simplistic being able to “boss you around.” Actually, most Catholics experience Church authority in the form of straightforward declarations regarding faith & morals:

That something is or is not a part of the Faith; and That living in accordance with the Faith requires or forbids certain actions. You always retain the freedom to decide whether or not to remain in the Faith by following those teachings.

(In the Gospels, there are many cases where people hear Christ but evidently decide not to follow him. By definition, his disciples are those who seek to follow him closely and learn from him. Even when it’s hard. Catholics see the Church as continuing in Christ’s role of teaching the truth: “He who hears you hears me.”)

Why do Protestants reject this claim?

Non-Catholics usually base their rejection of Church authority on the common misconception of “misplaced worship”: it is claimed that Catholics worship the Church instead of God.

Opponents of this authority sometimes also accuse the Catholic Church of claiming power that is only proper to God.

Catholics believe that this criticism is mistaken.

The best argument for the Catholic doctrine of Church authority comes from the New Testament itself: the Acts of the Apostles reveals the Church’s self-image as a body at the service of Christ’s saving Gospel, acting in the ways and structures taught to them by Christ himself. The Apostles are keenly aware of the authority that has been given to them by Christ, and of their own need to remain ever faithful to Christ as they exercise that authority.

Additionally, this same Church authority is the only thing that guarantees the accuracy and inerrancy of the Bible itself. It was the Church that selected the books of New Testament and defined the canon of the Bible. Those who believe that the Bible is reliable, are in fact relying on the Church’s testimony that the New Testament books accurately reflect the faith & teachings of the Apostles, which is in turn grounded in the faith & teachings of Christ.

(There were many other writings available that were not selected to be a part of the Bible because their contents were flawed in some way. The Church itself made the selection many years after the death of the Apostles, based on its living witness to the Faith, guaranteed by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.)


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To: mitch5501

Amen brother!


81 posted on 07/27/2015 11:54:49 PM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: NKP_Vet; Mom MD
Forgot that you’re a lot smarter than St. Augustine and all other doctors of the Church

Smart, IQ, intellectual, knowledge...and doctors of the (Catholic) Church...

Us saved born again Christians did seek the wisdom of God through the scriptures and now we are part of the Kingdom of God

Follow Jesus instead of "doctors"

Jesus didn't choose the learned scribes and Pharisees to be his disciples, but the simple folk who could receive his message.

Doctors of the Church...physician heal thyself!

"Forgot that you’re a lot smarter..." Well don't forget again!

82 posted on 07/28/2015 12:07:55 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Faith Presses On

Thanks for thinking of me.


83 posted on 07/28/2015 4:51:58 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: Syncro

We have a personal relationship with Jesus, not a religion and are quite content to abide in Christ.


Amen to that.


84 posted on 07/28/2015 5:03:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Jesus:

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

The Apostle Peter: Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

The name of JESUS,a person, not the name of Catholicism, Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, or any other organization.

85 posted on 07/28/2015 6:05:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Syncro
Like I have said many times to my dear Catholic fellow posters here...I have no problem with you believing and following all that Catholicism teaches, but do NOT try to squish all that into the many born again believers here.

We have a personal relationship with Jesus, not a religion and are quite content to abide in Christ.

Preach it, brother.

86 posted on 07/28/2015 6:06:55 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”

Petra = Jesus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
True,


It is also true that Jesus said

Mathew 16
18 And I say also unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

It is no secret that Jesus is the Rock, Peter was the first of the living stones which came from Christ ( the rock )

Peter may well have used the keys of the kingdom on the day of Pentecost when he stood up and gave the first sermon ever to the Christian church.

As Jesus is the high Priest Peter was the first of the spiritual holy priesthood.


87 posted on 07/28/2015 6:17:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: Syncro

....”No one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”.......( Pope Eugene IV, ex cathedra, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino (1441 AD).....

Well there it is yet again....

and certainly when they add...Canon 4 regarding the ‘sacrements given by the priests’.....

....that... (“If anyone shall say that the sacraments are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and that, although all are not necessary for every individual, without them or without the desire of them, through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification; let him be anathema.”)....

....then the ‘stronghold’ of catholicism keeps it’s membership in bondage.... So the cross is made of NO effect....what ‘they add’ does nullify the simple gospel because they believe they are saved through the sacraments and church membeership .... They do not trust that the cross that Christ died on can bring ‘full redemption in and of itself’... ... This is what Paul stated as a different gospel.


88 posted on 07/28/2015 6:51:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: ealgeone

Seems to me that’s why so often we hear when one is dying or close to death a Priest is called immediately to oversee and administer what they do.

I think it includes the Priest has the authority through this ritual to offer them forgiveness for all their ‘venial’ sins and even their mortal sins if they are unable to confess them but are truly sorry for them. Thus the Priest appears to stand in the place of Christ...for in reality only Christ can forgive sins.

Therefore to my understanding if the Priest isn’t present to do this they’re doomed.


89 posted on 07/28/2015 7:08:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: metmom

So sit in that recliner, watch Jimmy Swaggart and send him your money. Your front room is your church, just ask brotha Jimmy.


90 posted on 07/28/2015 7:59:42 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom

Actually, the early church did meet in homes.


91 posted on 07/28/2015 8:11:26 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them”
Matthew 18:20

“If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people.” 1 Corinthians 6:1

“If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.” Matthew 18:17

They didn’t sit in front of a TV watching Jimmy Swaggart tell them there is no need to get out of that chair, just keep on watching his program. Also no need to get baptised, just “believe”, and be “born again”.


92 posted on 07/28/2015 8:33:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Jimmy who?

Never watched him and never intend to.


93 posted on 07/28/2015 8:42:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NKP_Vet
They didn’t sit in front of a TV watching Jimmy Swaggart tell them there is no need to get out of that chair, just keep on watching his program. Also no need to get baptised, just “believe”, and be “born again”.

Did anything I posted say not to do these things??

The baptism doesn't save you. It is an expression of your new faith in following Christ.

"Church" can be wherever you are.

On the many retreats I've been on some of the best messages/bible study have been conducted.

Remember....big numbers mean nothing to God.

94 posted on 07/28/2015 8:44:21 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: caww

yep...confirms what others have said also.


95 posted on 07/28/2015 8:45:28 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: caww

“I think”

Please, not your opinion, but the facts.


96 posted on 07/28/2015 8:54:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone
The Holy spirit gave His approval of meeting in homes when He fell on them on the day of Pentecost while they were meeting in a HOUSE.

The apostles did not consider meeting in homes to be a problem either.

Here are some verses which show that from the early NT church.

Acts 2:2-4 "Suddenly there was a sound from heaven like a roaring of a mighty windstorm in the skies above them, and it filled the house where they were meeting." And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 2:46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,

Acts 5:42 "And every day, in the Temple and in their homes, they continued to teach and preach this message: 'The Messiah you are looking for is Jesus.'"

Acts 20:20 "yet I never shrank from telling you the truth, either publicly or in your homes."

Romans 16:5 "Please give my greetings to the church that meets in their home."

Romans 16:5 Greet also the church in their house. Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in Asia.

1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Prisca, together with the church in their house, send you hearty greetings in the Lord.

Colossians 4:15 Give my greetings to the brothers at Laodicea, and to Nympha and the church in her house.

Philemon 1:1-3 and Apphia our sister and Archippus our fellow soldier, and the church in your house:

Nowhere does God tell us that we have to do *church* in a church building. Our only command is to not forsake meeting together. It NEVER specifies where.

On the contrary, since our bodies are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in us, where ever we are is *church*. We can worship God, serve Him, praise Him, pray to Him, tell others about Him, and operate in the gifts He's given us.

97 posted on 07/28/2015 9:00:27 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

98 posted on 07/28/2015 9:01:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/anointing-of-the-sick


99 posted on 07/28/2015 9:02:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; caww
Please, not your opinion, but the facts.

Then you provide them. You're the Catholics. If caww is wrong, the point it out with *the facts*.

100 posted on 07/28/2015 9:03:49 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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