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What is the source of the Church’s authority?
http://catholicsay.com ^ | June 2, 2015

Posted on 07/26/2015 7:30:39 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: Salvation; caww

Pictures prove nothing.

Post the content of the facts.

Don’t send people off chasing links.


101 posted on 07/28/2015 9:05:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I’ll post it in a separate thread later.

PS. If you check my homepage you will see many links to “Anointing of the Sick.”


102 posted on 07/28/2015 9:06:26 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

“Church” can be wherever you are”.

Wrong. The only place you’re find the Holy Eucharist, which Christians for 2,000 years have been observing is where you have a priest and he’ll be in a Church if one is available.

“Every time I hear a televangelist emphasis a personal relationship with Christ, I thank God that I’m Catholic. For only here can I receive the Lord — body, blood, soul and divinity. It doesn’t get much more personal than that.” ~ Fr. William Casey


103 posted on 07/28/2015 9:09:46 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
“Every time I hear a televangelist emphasis a personal relationship with Christ, I thank God that I’m Catholic. For only here can I receive the Lord — body, blood, soul and divinity. It doesn’t get much more personal than that.” ~ Fr. William Casey

Sure it does, since born again believers have Jesus Christ dwelling in their hearts through faith, thus becoming the temple of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.

104 posted on 07/28/2015 9:16:57 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation; metmom
I think not...rather Idols are often used....giving false hop to the dying...as we "see" here in a real photo not an artist depiction.


105 posted on 07/28/2015 9:27:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

** false hop **

hopping around sick?


106 posted on 07/28/2015 9:43:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet
...."The only place you’re find the Holy Eucharist, which Christians for 2,000 years have been observing is where you have a priest"....

I think not for Jesus broke the bread in two that night at 'the Passover' and told his disciples that this was his body that would be given up to the Father in place of ours...stating ..."Do this in remembrance of me".....Jesus and his disciples were not in a church...rather celebrating the Passover....and in like manner we remember, as the Jews, have that we've been Passed over through his great and mighty sacrifice...complete, finished and forever "settled in heaven"....as our great and high Priest there is no other.....


107 posted on 07/28/2015 9:44:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation
I think you get my point....but you are certainly free to worship who you will....still here's other Priests giving false hope to the dying by presenting a figurehead idol of Mary...

and this glowing statue of Mary at "Our Lady of the Snows, in Belleville Illinois" is seen in the foreground, and all the raised hands of the Catholic parishioners in open and obvious worship....so my point is there is healing and life only through our Great High Priest and Savior Jesus Christ...none other....not Mary not a Priest...Jesus only as is written...."Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried;......He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed....


108 posted on 07/28/2015 10:00:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom

Hmmmm, instead of posting “facts” not in evidence, now your are assuming “facts” not in evidence about another poster.

Snark seems to be used when scriptures point out error.

So, the Jimmy Swaggart strawman....did you get bilked by him in the past? Or a loved one? I notice you refer to him as your brother.

“Your front room is your church”

A personal attack (mind reading), not allowed in the Religion Forum.

No I won’t turn you in, I like to leave the evidence on the thread.


109 posted on 07/28/2015 11:21:32 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: NKP_Vet
Also no need to get baptized, just “believe”, and be “born again”.

Pretty close. Partake in both of those sincerely and you will be saved.

Are you condemning the thief on the cross to eternal damnation?

Baptism is very important, but not always necessary for salvation.

In some belief systems though it is necessary to be "saved" into that Church.

110 posted on 07/28/2015 11:26:42 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Salvation; caww


Carex lupuliformis
false hop sedge


111 posted on 07/28/2015 11:27:49 AM PDT by BlueDragon ("Another d-mn'd thick, square book! Always, scribble, scribble, scribble! Eh! Mr. Gibbon?")
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To: BlueDragon
Your amused....lol
112 posted on 07/28/2015 11:38:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation; EagleOne
Please, not your opinion, but the facts.

If there were facts to counter what another poster's opinion is, don't you think you should post them?

Otherwize your comment seems quite empty and hollow.

Perhaps your should apply this to yourself: "I see we might have a new moderator????"

A complaint about someone asking for chapter and verse. A rule you seem to like to bring to posters attention even when they have not even posted any scripture!

113 posted on 07/28/2015 11:54:15 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: metmom

Hmmm, now opinions are not allowed in the RF?

I’ll have to check the RF guidelines, maybe they changed.


114 posted on 07/28/2015 11:55:28 AM PDT by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Syncro

Personal attack? What is it you and others don’t understand in the specific words of Christ.

“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.”
~ John 6:53

I am personally sick and tired of those on FR that pick and choose what they want to believe in the Bible and then attack others for living the Word of God and doing exactly what He told Christians to do 2,000 years ago, and something all Christians did for 1,500 years after Jesus died on the cross. You either believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God or you don’t.
Don’t bother me anymore with heretical statements, denying the word of God. I’m sick of it. I should have made this a Catholic Caucus thread because there is no way to discuss the Word of God with Catholic Church haters. And thread after thread is hijacked by the haters.


115 posted on 07/28/2015 12:07:05 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
As you may noticed, I have not previously posted on this topic. I don't think you could use the caucus label, as the article says:

Why do Protestants reject this claim?

Non-Catholics usually base their rejection of Church authority on the common misconception of “misplaced worship”: it is claimed that Catholics worship the Church instead of God.

Opponents of this authority sometimes also accuse the Catholic Church of claiming power that is only proper to God.

Catholics believe that this criticism is mistaken.

If I'm not mistaken, that would be enough to remove the caucus label.

You either believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God or you don’t.

Succinctly put, and I agree. Please note the words of John 6:60-68 (KJV), not too far from John 6:53 (bold is my emphasis):

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Grace & Peace,
K51

116 posted on 07/28/2015 12:56:59 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: caww

And in that photo.....who are they placing their trust in?


117 posted on 07/28/2015 1:46:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Salvation; caww
Seeing how you like to deal in facts......someone has "unconfessed mortal" sins and dies without confessing to a priest......

do they "lose" their salvation and go to Hell?

118 posted on 07/28/2015 1:49:48 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet

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Yeshua’s Assembly has no authority.

It has a responsibility to spread the gospel, and that is it.

The apostles had some organizing authority, but they, and their power have been gone for 1,900 years.

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There are several bodies that claim to be “The Church” but they are merely human corporations with no relevance in the realm of God.
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119 posted on 07/28/2015 1:57:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NKP_Vet

...” I should have made this a Catholic Caucus thread”....

Yes I would agree if you don’t want to see opposing views then that is the way to go, then you can chat among yourselves on your belief system.


120 posted on 07/28/2015 1:58:03 PM PDT by caww
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