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Was The Papacy Established By Christ? (Part 2)
triablogue ^ | June 24, 2006 | Jason Engwer

Posted on 06/19/2015 6:54:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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1 posted on 06/19/2015 6:54:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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Part 2 ping


2 posted on 06/19/2015 6:54:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Thanks for the ping


3 posted on 06/19/2015 6:59:50 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RnMomof7

Well of course it was, only a fool that doesn’t know history or read the Bible would think otherwise.


4 posted on 06/19/2015 7:01:23 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: RnMomof7

Very tortured logic.


5 posted on 06/19/2015 7:03:25 PM PDT by expat2
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To: RnMomof7

I would read St. Irenaeus in his Adversus Haereses. I would start with the actual people who were there around that time rather than 21st century interpretations based on translations.


6 posted on 06/19/2015 7:09:24 PM PDT by Burkianfrombrklyn
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To: RnMomof7
keep 'em coming!

the more history I read about the rcc, the more of a false religion it becomes.

7 posted on 06/19/2015 7:11:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Keep reading and eventually it will line up perfectly with Revelation 17.


8 posted on 06/19/2015 7:17:37 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: verga

Ah, the pigeon who plays chess with pigeons addresses his spittle at fools. How quaint.


9 posted on 06/19/2015 7:19:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: verga; RnMomof7
Well of course it was, only a fool that doesn’t know history or read the Bible would think otherwise.

#1 There's nothing in the Bible about a Papacy.
#2 And we're reading early Church History here if you bothered to read it before posting.

10 posted on 06/19/2015 7:22:52 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Burkianfrombrklyn

You would start with men, while we start with the Bible.


11 posted on 06/19/2015 7:23:45 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: RnMomof7

Well, I am a little cranky tonight and I was going to post a snarky comment like...

“Gosh. Thanks ever so much for setting me straight, and here I thought all this time that Jesus words were enough for me, but you are obviously so much better informed than he as to his plan, that we all need to seek you out whenever we are too intellectually incurious as to seek the plain meaning of biblical texts, oh, wait that would sort of make you...the Pope!”

But, what I will say is that I am sick of the constant infighting between Christians on FR. Read the post about what Mike Huckabee had to say today. If you really think that your quarrel is with the Latin Rite Catholic Church, you’re in for a rude awakening when the rainbow crowd ships you off to be reeducated.


12 posted on 06/19/2015 7:33:59 PM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: RnMomof7

“Was The Papacy Established By Christ?”

Papacy? Hmmmmmmmm.....

The Apostle Paul left “papacy” one out of his list of Church Offices:

Ephesians 4:11 - “And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers”

Nor does it appear anywhere.


13 posted on 06/19/2015 7:39:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: LurkLongley
Well, I am a little cranky tonight and I was going to post a snarky comment like...

[Extended nasty snark]

But, what I will say is that I am sick of the constant infighting between Christians on FR.

LOL, yeah, it must rip a peacemaker like you apart.

14 posted on 06/19/2015 7:42:58 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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As a matter of fact, it does, my snarky post is a perfect example. It’s a reaction ( albeit a wrongheaded one ) to the feeling that as Latin Rite Christians, we are always being attacked, but, as Christians we are all under attack from the evil one until Our Saviour returns. It’s one of the main reasons I don’t post anymore. Why should I fight you? I think I can find better uses for my time.


15 posted on 06/19/2015 7:58:37 PM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: LurkLongley; RnMomof7

But what if she is right (and I know that she is)? Maybe you should thank her for caring enough to sound the alarm and tell you the truth. The absolute hardest people to reach are those caught up in false religion or those who have trusted a false profession. I truly admire her tenacity. Instead reacting viscerally with snark, become a Berean. Prayerfully consider her posts and ask the Lord to reveal the truth.

Also, the rainbow crowd can’t do anything to any Christian that isn’t allowed and predestined by the Father. Christians were not promised an easy road. In fact, we were warned to expect the opposite. The same wicked one behind the rainbow progressives is also behind all false religion, including the Latin Rite Roman Catholic Church. I know that’s hard to accept and I don’t want to be hurtful, but it’s better to hear it in this life. The Bible tells us to seek the Lord while He may be found.


16 posted on 06/19/2015 8:00:50 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: LurkLongley

Ad a Latin Rite Catholic, do you believe you are yet saved, or are you hoping your works can measure up by the time deth or the Rapture arrives?


17 posted on 06/19/2015 8:04:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: RnMomof7

In 444 AD, the Emperor Valentinian III issued a decree called “Novel 17” in which he assigned to the Bishop of Rome supremacy over the provincial churches. Thus, he made Bishop Leo of Rome the first Pope.


18 posted on 06/19/2015 8:10:23 PM PDT by zot
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To: RnMomof7

No.


19 posted on 06/19/2015 8:21:23 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: .45 Long Colt

So, now, not only am I not a Christian, but I am a follower of the Enemy! The only thing I see here is a pathetic attempt by a pygmy Martin Luther who believes that they can discern the unfathomable plan of the Creator of the universe better than the men and women who ate and drank at our Lord’s side. I’m going to stick with the faith handed down from the Apostles rather than the one invented by your uncle, your next door neighbor’s wife, or the wino at the end of the block.

There is such a thing as ultimate Truth, and Christ is he. He left us the Church and gave the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter and his successors. I am sorry that this leaves all of the little Papal wannabes out in the cold, but, my Lord made the rules, it’s up to you if you want to follow Him, or your little man-made churchlets.


20 posted on 06/19/2015 8:27:39 PM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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