Posted on 06/19/2015 6:54:04 PM PDT by RnMomof7
I am saved by the atoning suffering and death of my Savior and given the hope of the eternal life by His Resurrection. Any and all “works” which I perform are to conform my will more closely to His.
Funny, sounded like Latin Rite Christians are the only ones you regards as actual Christians.
Why should I fight you? I think I can find better uses for my time.
Indeed, why should Christians fight each other at all? Yet it seems to be their favorite sport.
I had no idea ... !
You are saved by faithing in His death and resurrection, and you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit (not yo-yoing ina nd out) because Jesus spread His blood upon the Mercy Seat over the law of sin and death. By His indwelling Spirit some of your walk will conform more and more to His character. The works doen in your body as one faithing in Him will have a ‘bathing’ (in the Glory of His Shekinah) IN HEAVEN to purify you as His Bride for the imminent Wedding ceremony. If you have accumulated wood, hay, and stubble, that will be burnt, but you yourself will be saved as by fire.
Why do you attack Luther? More Christians than you would believe do not need someone to interpret the scriptures and keep them in line. I read the Word and I see nothing about a building, heirarchy, or asking a man for forgiveness. The Church is the body of Christ. Those who come to him in faith, repent and are baptised, although that is not necessary. (see criminal on the cross next to Yeshua being forgiven). Our “walk” with Christ is totally personal. We need no mediator, in fact He is our mediator with the Father. It just came to mind that the Catholic Priest called a Father does exactly that. I don’t hate Catholics, I believe their walk is just as personal. As a Christian I am beholden to speak my piece. Do with it what you will, your salvation is not on my head. MINE IS if I do not say what I believe. If I am wrong, and lead someone astray that IS on my head. So I take this very seriously. Thanks for reading this, and be well.
We are under orders to contend for the faith.
The Catholic Church does not teach salvation through works. It does, in fact, regard salvation through works as a heresy. Yet Protestants continually bleat like an ipod stuck on repeat. Do you realize how foolish it is to dully insist on something that is demonstrably false? You can’t make a falsehood true by monotonously repeating it.
Alert the media—True Protestants believe Rome is an apostate church. How can that possibly surprise you?
And I never said you are not a Christian. A Christian is someone who has been born from above by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The New Birth is a miracle of grace. I can’t possibly know the condition of your heart. I remain hopeful there are those Catholics who are truly saved. I suspect there are many whose hearts are better than their understanding of doctrine. What I know for certain is that yours is an apostate church and as long as Galatians is in my Bible I will never waver from that notion.
What is with the Martin Luther stuff? That may have seemed like a witty slam, but it’s just silly and meaningless. I’m a Reformed Baptist. While I can appreciate certain aspects of Luther’s life and I believe he was used by God, I have major disagreements with his understanding. He has nothing to do with me.
You know, I started to say that yours is the ultimate manmade church, but that would be dishonest. Rome is Satan’s clever counterfeit that has fooled billions.
By the way, there is absolutely no witty slam, pejorative, invective, or rhetoric that can upset me or rattle my faith or upset me. There is nothing any Catholic can say here that hasn’t been declared boldly at the highest levels of Rome for centuries.
I’d ignore this rot from shallow Bible Christians. Apparently, until the Reformation of 1517, all saints, martyrs, the early Church fathers, Catholic theologians, those who assembled the written texts and declared it to be the true written Word of God in AD 382 and since then even those eminent Protestant theologians who converted to Catholicism, all got it wrong.
And oh, all of the following got it wrong too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Catholicism
Bible Christians believe they can each offer us “their” own interpretation of God’s word, and instead the authority given to Peter and his successors is up for grabs. Just look around and see the mudslides of heretical beliefs that have washed ashore as flotsam and jetsam since the arch progenitors of this heresy.
This crowd believes in “Christianity Lite,” and so they’d rush to any corner street blogger to capture their streams of interpretations. Jim Jones and David Koresh did the same thing.
Don’t waste your time arguing in shallow waters. Bible Christians drown in deep theological waters.
Sorry, it was late, I was tired after long travel, and I viewed this “scholarly” piece as another in the long series of back and forth flame wars that are ALWAYS occurring on FR.
Thank you for your recognition of my possible Christianity, I am saved and I give thanks to God every day for it.
I mentioned Luther only in passing to illustrate the point about human inventors of all other sects.
I wish Godspeed on your journey, and I will issue a warning and an invitation. Be not so certain that all of your clever memorization of scripture and its attendant “understanding” isn’t the whisper of Satan in your ear, and I would welcome you home to full communion with Christ’s Bride our Holy Mother the One Holy Roman and Apostolic Church.
This is Church History, not the palaver foisted on you time and again.
Still not reading with comprehension I see.
Was The Papacy Established By Christ?
It was not started by Jesus or Peter.
The elephant in the room that the author in both parts of this series avoids is that not until political issues emerged in Byzantine Empire did anyone question the primacy of the Pope. He is the successor of Peter in the Peterine Ministry.
It is completely easy work to sit here in 2015 and pick apart documents according to our understanding and agenda, but what you can’t refute is the EVIDENCE. Absolutely the understanding of the role of the successor of Peter became better understood over time, just as many other doctrines and Traditions were (Trinity, the Sacraments, the Canon and etc.), but that doesn’t take away from the fact that they were always believed.
In both parts of this series the authors arguments are sophistic, fails the test of rigor, and offers nothing more than a personal agenda.
I am continually amazed at the evidence against the current beliefs and structure of the Catholic Church yet many refuse to see the truth.
In and of ourselves, I don’t think any of us can make a dent. The Lord has to open their eyes. Rome cleverly offers a system of religion that is satisfying to men.
I agree it’s God who needs to lead them and open their eyes. It’s why I don’t get frustrated when so many don’t see the truth.
When in spacetime is a person born from above?
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