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Confidential Meeting Seeks to Sway Synod to Accept Same-Sex Unions
National Catholic Register | 5/26/2015 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 05/27/2015 7:57:33 PM PDT by ebb tide

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The closed-door meeting, masterminded by the German bishops’ conference under the leadership of Cardinal Marx, was first proposed at the annual meeting of the heads of the three bishops’ conferences, held in January in Marseille, France.

Cardinal Marx, a member in good standing in Francis' Gang o' Nine, had earlier said the German Church “cannot wait” for synodal statements, as marriage and family ministry has to be undertaken now, according to an article in Die Tagespost, translated by the blog Catholic Conclave.

Cardinal Marx, the archbishop of Munich and Freising, said as far as doctrine is concerned, the German episcopate remains in communion with the Church, but on individual issues of pastoral care, “the synod cannot prescribe in detail what we have to do in Germany.”

The German bishops want to publish their own pastoral letter on marriage and family after the synod, the article says.

“We are not just a subsidiary of Rome,” Cardinal Marx said. “Each episcopal conference is responsible for the pastoral care in their culture and has to proclaim the Gospel in its own unique way. We cannot wait until a synod states something, as we have to carry out marriage and family ministry here.”

https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/german-bishops-we-are-not-just-a-subsidiary-of-rome/

The schism is in full bloom, and Francis ignores it.

1 posted on 05/27/2015 7:57:33 PM PDT by ebb tide
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“We are not just a subsidiary of Rome,” Cardinal Marx said. “Each episcopal conference is responsible for the pastoral care in their culture and has to proclaim the Gospel in its own unique way. We cannot wait until a synod states something, as we have to carry out marriage and family ministry here.”

So, incest would be okay, so long as it is part of the culture of the country.
2 posted on 05/27/2015 8:02:19 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ebb tide
Confidential Meeting Seeks to Sway Synod to Accept Same-Sex Unions

If the Catholic Church succumbs to this assault, it will finalize my disconnect with it.

I did not leave my church; it left me.

3 posted on 05/27/2015 8:08:24 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: ebb tide

Save the Church, Excommunicate them now!


4 posted on 05/27/2015 8:16:08 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Army Air Corps

But you ARE a “subsidiary of Rome”!

And, NO, you CAN NOT “proclaim the Gospel in your own unique way” when “unique” means HERESY!


5 posted on 05/27/2015 8:17:37 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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> No one would say why the study day was held in confidence. So secret was the meeting that even prominent Jesuits at the Gregorian were completely unaware of it. The Register learned about it when Jean-Marie Guénois leaked the information in a story in Le Figaro.

Of course they are colluding together behind closed doors. Their plan is to use faggotry to make all Christians look intolerant so they can say the pastor’s teachings are “hate speeches “. That way they can kill Christianity and force faggotry against people against their will with one stone. They do that and they kill the family unit and individuality.

Welcome to the New World Order, Comrade...


6 posted on 05/27/2015 8:17:47 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ebb tide
"Moral theology must be 'liberated from the natural law???'"

Clearly there is nothing wrong with Fr. Schockenhof (and Cardinal Marx and the other disgraceful schimstics/heretics) that cannot be cured by burning them at the stake. As a punishment, it has a wondrous ability to concentrate the miscreants' mind(s), if any, on their respective moral failings and outrages.

7 posted on 05/27/2015 8:18:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: ebb tide

Disgraceful.


8 posted on 05/27/2015 8:30:42 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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The speed at which societal norms, traditions and morals are crumbling is breathtaking.


9 posted on 05/27/2015 8:55:46 PM PDT by optiguy (If government is the answer, it was a stupid question.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I rest my case.


10 posted on 05/27/2015 9:08:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like Cardinal Marx might have a thesis he wants to pin up on a door somewhere.


11 posted on 05/27/2015 9:12:34 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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I’ve thought the same thing. It staggers the mind how quickly technology can create an about-face in public opinion on truly foundational issues.


12 posted on 05/27/2015 9:14:05 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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“French Biblicist and Ratzinger Prize-winner Anne-Marie Pelletier praised the dialogue that took place between theologians and bishops as a “real sign of the times.”

So true, but not in the way Pelletier thinks. The storm is nearly upon us.


13 posted on 05/27/2015 9:18:09 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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“The speed at which societal norms, traditions and morals are crumbling is breathtaking.”

Welcome to fundamental transformation friend.

While Isis blows up historical artifacts, rapes, pillages and burns over their ever growing landscape, Obama is far more diabolical, systematic, and under the radar; he tears the institutions down from within, overwhelms all systems, riles the population, the courts, the races, and all societal norms. All the while spending us into abject oblivion and destroying vast amounts of current and future wealth.

Yet people love him and defend him.


14 posted on 05/27/2015 9:20:48 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: ebb tide

A rogue’s gallery of those influenced by satan, not the Holy Spirit.


15 posted on 05/27/2015 11:01:49 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: ebb tide

Hey, at least people will feel good about themselves again!


16 posted on 05/28/2015 1:49:49 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: ebb tide

Father Schockenhoff? Name states it all....


17 posted on 05/28/2015 3:00:57 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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To: ebb tide

The German church has been in “schism” for years. I would prefer these protestant wannable bishops to be excommunicated.


18 posted on 05/28/2015 7:45:31 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("All the evils in the world are due to lukewarm Catholics" ~ Pope Pius V)
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To: ebb tide

When the Catholic Church finally gives into the pressure for gay marriage...there will only be one un-splintered world religion left that will stand up for traditional marriage of a man and a women. The Mormons.


19 posted on 05/28/2015 2:09:06 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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...there will only be one un-splintered world religion left that will stand up for traditional marriage of a man and a women. The Mormons.

Was "women" vs "woman" a Joseph Smith slip?

20 posted on 05/28/2015 7:33:14 PM PDT by ebb tide (Defense of the papacy is always admirable; defense of the officeholder, not always so.)
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