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1 posted on 05/22/2015 4:54:44 PM PDT by OK Sun
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To: OK Sun

BTTT for later reading


2 posted on 05/22/2015 4:59:07 PM PDT by amigatec (2 Thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: OK Sun

The question has never been about dates or charts.

The question IS about God’s nature.

IF there is a true wrath from God (the tribulation) can the Church suffer that wrath?

Can a believer who is covered with the blood of the Son and indwelt by the Holy Spirit be subject to the wrath of the Father?

I think not. So just as Enoch was taken out before the first wrath, so shall we.


3 posted on 05/22/2015 5:06:19 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: OK Sun

I guess I don’t know what I am... not enough info here to tell.

Can you help please?


4 posted on 05/22/2015 5:07:12 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: OK Sun

“Covenant Theology = two covenants”?


5 posted on 05/22/2015 5:09:51 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: OK Sun

[Dallas Theological Seminary]

Well....I was a student of a guy who got his doctorate there. Nice guy, who’s name I will not mention in forum nor in message, has way different views than I.


6 posted on 05/22/2015 5:12:08 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: OK Sun

I have some issues with each, though I lean much more to the dispensationalist side.

The dispensationalists who say that now it is simply accepting or rejecting Christ as though God’s law is irrelevant now have it wrong, for example.


8 posted on 05/22/2015 5:29:22 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: OK Sun

one does not need to take sides of this “debate”. The truth is no human really knows these things. No one. Live each day as if it were your last because no one knows when Christ will return and no one knows how all this works.


22 posted on 05/22/2015 6:12:57 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: OK Sun

All I know for sure is that in the end, every last thing written about in the Bible will have come to pass.


25 posted on 05/22/2015 6:19:32 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: OK Sun

btlr


31 posted on 05/22/2015 6:46:08 PM PDT by winodog
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To: OK Sun
The Problem with Dispensationalism is that the name itself had been tainted to such a degree that it is not worth calling yourself one.

Not really sure what the author is attempting to say, but I do agree with this statement. I HATE religious labels because they cause so much division and divide the Body. Believers should be able to discuss the Bible and share their view, even if either is in error.

I was a "dispensationalist" before I ever heard the term. I simply studied the Bible and noted the major differences between the OT, NT time of Jesus and Acts, and Paul's Revelation. It wasn't until later that I read works by Bullinger, Welch, and others who explained it better.

BTW - if you don't take a little lamb or two doves to church to sacrifice, you are a dispensationalist.

43 posted on 05/22/2015 8:08:01 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: OK Sun
But they were the cool guys who believed in the historic Christian faith and I was the cultural Christian, believing in novel ideas.

Not if they are Protestant, as their historic faith rests on a rebellion in the Sixteenth Century and a reformation of historic Christianity. Yet there are surviving elements of sanctification and truth in said faith communities.

102 posted on 05/23/2015 9:44:01 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: OK Sun

I sure don`t have nothing against people who believe they are going to be raptured out of this mess.

A life long friend and one that was even closer than a brother ( our wifes became great friends also which was great ) believed in the pre tribulation rapture.

He has been gone from us for many years now, we argued all of the time about it.

I once ask him if he believed Paul was saying we would literally go to meet Christ in the air alive, his answer was exactly.

My point is that if it is literal then Paul was also in the rapture so we must have missed it by almost two thousand years.


114 posted on 05/23/2015 11:48:11 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: OK Sun
Since the article speaks of charts...:)


435 posted on 05/26/2015 11:08:45 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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To: OK Sun
Dispensationalism: There were no Christians before Pentacost, not the apostles, not Mary, not even John the Baptist.

That's the first step to Dispensations.

495 posted on 05/27/2015 6:40:54 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: OK Sun; daniel1212; Alex Murphy

Those who are saved, from the beginning of this earth, are saved by grace through faith. There are not different times and ways in which people are saved. This is where I most strongly disagree with the Dispensationalists-that people were saved in various modes in each dispensation.


568 posted on 05/27/2015 1:34:47 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: OK Sun

There are only TWO choices??


574 posted on 05/27/2015 3:06:03 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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