Posted on 05/22/2015 9:05:44 AM PDT by RnMomof7
This Catholic believes that ALL who acknowledge the Trinity and receive Christ into their hearts as Savior, shall achieve salvation. It is so set forth in the Catechism of the Church, which has excommunicated those who preached that there is no salvation outside of it. Look up Fr. Leonard Feeney, S.J. Even Catholic kids were warned not to regard their Protestant friends as “unsaved”.
Witnessing the Consecration and receiving the Eucharist is to experience the physical presence of Christ, and strengthens one’s faith.
I have felt the heavy hand of coworkers who tell me with a straight face that they intend to “convert me to Christianity”. I laugh & tell them that the first miracle of Jesus was to change water into wine at Cana. Sends them into a tailspin with cries of “It was really grape juice!!”.
As for this thread, it’s obvious that there are those who need to get the log out of their eye before they get that speck out of mine.
;^)
Interesting. So, because subsequent popes have said that non-Catholics can go to heaven, salvation, they were spouting heresy, as many Catholics do today?
This really is the silliest collection of provably false, straw-ridden garbage that I’ve seen in a while... and given some of the straw men posted by anti-Catholics on this forum alone, that’s saying quite a lot.
Any chance you could give up anti-Catholic rants, and take up golfing, or something? Forgive me, but you’re really not very good at this, even by Protestant standards.
Are these ecumenical Catholics just being devious, or do they not believe Catholic doctrine?
Both? Jesuits, maybe?
An Example in a Recent Edition of This Rock Magazine
Early Church Evidence Refutes Real Presence
The Lord's Supper: solemn symbolism or corporeal flesh and blood?
The Conversion of a Catholic Priest
A Refresher on “Apostolic Succession"
Explaining the Heresy of Catholicism Grace vs> works
The Nature of Justifying Faith
Why These 66 Books?
Is There A Purgatory?
Should Christians Confess Sins to An Earthly Priest?
Salvation by Faith or Works?
How good do I have to be to go to heaven?
The religion of works-righteousness
Against Rome's Apostolic Succession Argument by Bullinger (Part 1)
The Late Development of the Bishop of Rome
How the fictional early papacy became real
Papacy built on pious fiction and forgery 2
Papacy built on pious fiction and forgery, part 1
The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura:Is It Really Biblical?
Rome's New and Novel Concept of Tradition
Is The Roman Catholic View of the Eucharist Supported by the Historical Evidence?
Is the Mass the Real Sacrifice of Christ?
Pagan Saints
Upon This Rock
How Christians Will Know They Can Join Hands With Rome
But I’ve been assured that it’s literally part of the actual crucifixion, actual partaking in the actual killing and eating the actual literal flesh of Christ, transcending time and space.
Funny how it’s literally literal, and merely symbolic, whichever refutes the irrefutable logical flaw faced.
Very little of which was established at the Last Supper.
Before taking the Catholic Eucharist, we say, “When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, O Lord, until you come again.” There is never anything said that promotes the idea we are lost UNLESS we keep taking this sacrament every week. This article is a piece of useless drivel.
“What I find puzzling is that many Catholics concede that Protestant Christians CAN be saved and are genuine Christians, while being without that core teaching of the absolute necessity of receiving the Eucharist for salvation.
I’d like a lurking Catholic to explain this. Are these ecumenical Catholics just being devious, or do they not believe Catholic doctrine?”
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It is not Catholic doctrine that to be saved one must receive the Catholic Eucharist. It is Catholic doctrine that validly receiving the Catholic Eucharist does strengthen one on the road to heaven.
See post #15 by HangnJudge.
A statement was issued Ex Cathedra. So, is truth changeable, or is it not?
....she's baaaack....
I am no expert on Catholic Tradition,
but it would be helpful for a Pope,
speaking Ex Cathedra,
hence Infallibly in issues of Faith and Morality
To formally put this point to rest.
It is a Major Stumbling Block in
relations between Catholics and Protestants
.
Then it is Catholic doctrine that Catholics never have to receive the Catholic Eucharist to be saved. For it IS Catholic doctrine that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. That's well established.
The point is already put to rest, infallibly. It’s infallible dogma that “outside the Church, there is no salvation”. But since the earliest times, no one (save for some fringe people who didn’t speak for the Magisterium) took that to mean that “one needs to be a visible, explicit, participating member of a Catholic parish, or else one will go to hell”!
Look up the Catholic teachings about “baptism of desire” and “baptism of blood”, to start; these are age-old teachings (not necessarily with those official titles, depending on the source) which show that the Church has never declared that “all non-Catholics are going to hell”.
Put in its clearest sense, the teaching says, “Anyone who is saved, is saved in and through Christ’s Catholic Church... whether they’re aware of that fact, or not... and whether they agree with that fact, or not.”
The “Ex Cathedra” issue is a particular sticking point. My understanding is that this seldom happens, maybe once in a lifetime (I have had several Catholics point this out to me.)
It points to the Sacred/Secular dichotomy heresy that is part and parcel of Roman Catholicism. That a pope may be as evil as Satan, but may, in another altered state, declare infallible Church doctrine, is the epitome of error.
I’m not objecting to transubstantiation. I’m objecting to whatever mutant parody of it is being portrayed, here.
“What I find puzzling is that many Catholics concede that Protestant Christians CAN be saved and are genuine Christians, while being without that core teaching of the absolute necessity of receiving the Eucharist for salvation.”
“absolute necessity of receiving the Eucharist for salvation.”
That statement is incorrect as regards the Catholic Church. This is very simple - anyone who professes belief in the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost is saved forever. The Eucharist at every mass is acknowledging the sacrifice Christ made for us. That’s it.
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