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“The Greatest of All Protestant Heresies”?
ligonier ministries ^ | May 12,2015 | Sinclair Ferguson

Posted on 05/12/2015 4:21:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7

Let us begin with a church history exam question. Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542–1621) was a figure not to be taken lightly. He was Pope Clement VIII’s personal theologian and one of the most able figures in the Counter-Reformation movement within sixteenth-century Roman Catholicism. On one occasion, he wrote: “The greatest of all Protestant heresies is _______ .” Complete, explain, and discuss Bellarmine’s statement.

How would you answer? What is the greatest of all Protestant heresies? Perhaps justification by faith? Perhaps Scripture alone, or one of the other Reformation watchwords?

Those answers make logical sense. But none of them completes Bellarmine’s sentence. What he wrote was: “The greatest of all Protestant heresies is assurance.”

A moment’s reflection explains why. If justification is not by faith alone, in Christ alone, by grace alone — if faith needs to be completed by works; if Christ’s work is somehow repeated; if grace is not free and sovereign, then something always needs to be done, to be “added” for final justification to be ours. That is exactly the problem. If final justification is dependent on something we have to complete it is not possible to enjoy assurance of salvation. For then, theologically, final justification is contingent and uncertain, and it is impossible for anyone (apart from special revelation, Rome conceded) to be sure of salvation. But if Christ has done everything, if justification is by grace, without contributory works; it is received by faith’s empty hands — then assurance, even “full assurance” is possible for every believer.

No wonder Bellarmine thought full, free, unfettered grace was dangerous! No wonder the Reformers loved the letter to the Hebrews!

This is why, as the author of Hebrews pauses for breath at the climax of his exposition of Christ’s work (Heb. 10:18), he continues his argument with a Paul-like “therefore” (Heb. 10:19). He then urges us to “draw near … in full assurance of faith” (Heb. 10:22). We do not need to re-read the whole letter to see the logical power of his “therefore.” Christ is our High Priest; our hearts have been sprinkled clean from an evil conscience just as our bodies have been washed with pure water (v.22).

Christ has once-for-all become the sacrifice for our sins, and has been raised and vindicated in the power of an indestructible life as our representative priest. By faith in Him, we are as righteous before the throne of God as He is righteous. For we are justified in His righteousness, His justification alone is ours! And we can no more lose this justification than He can fall from heaven. Thus our justification does not need to be completed any more than does Christ’s!

With this in view, the author says, “by one offering He has perfected for all time those who come to God by him” (Heb. 10:14). The reason we can stand before God in full assurance is because we now experience our “hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and … bodies washed with pure water” (Heb. 10:22).

Ah,” retorted Cardinal Bellarmine’s Rome, “teach this and those who believe it will live in license and antinomianism.” But listen instead to the logic of Hebrews. Enjoying this assurance leads to four things: First, an unwavering faithfulness to our confession of faith in Jesus Christ alone as our hope (v.23); second, a careful consideration of how we can encourage each other to “love and good works” (v.24); third, an ongoing communion with other Christians in worship and every aspect of our fellowship (v.25a); fourth, a life in which we exhort one another to keep looking to Christ and to be faithful to him, as the time of his return draws ever nearer (25b).

It is the good tree that produces good fruit, not the other way round. We are not saved by works; we are saved for works. In fact we are God’s workmanship at work (Eph. 2:9–10)! Thus, rather than lead to a life of moral and spiritual indifference, the once-for-all work of Jesus Christ and the full-assurance faith it produces, provides believers with the most powerful impetus to live for God’s glory and pleasure. Furthermore, this full assurance is rooted in the fact that God Himself has done all this for us. He has revealed His heart to us in Christ. The Father does not require the death of Christ to persuade Him to love us. Christ died because the Father loves us (John 3:16). He does not lurk behind His Son with sinister intent wishing He could do us ill — were it not for the sacrifice his Son had made! No, a thousand times no! — the Father Himself loves us in the love of the Son and the love of the Spirit.

Those who enjoy such assurance do not go to the saints or to Mary. Those who look only to Jesus need look nowhere else. In Him we enjoy full assurance of salvation. The greatest of all heresies? If heresy, let me enjoy this most blessed of “heresies”! For it is God’s own truth and grace!


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: assurance; doctrine; grace; moacb; osa
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To: terycarl
....it's all there in the Bible which the Catholics provided for you to read.......read it!

HAve I thanked your chosen religion for this wonderful book yet this morning?


 
 
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

 
 
 

881 posted on 05/17/2015 4:37:11 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Pelham

Did he ever lighten up?


882 posted on 05/17/2015 4:44:01 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Proof?

You are WRONG!

That's is proof enough!!

883 posted on 05/17/2015 4:44:45 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Amen, Elsie. Amen.

We all have a lot to work on.

Thank God for Jesus.

Thank God for grace.


884 posted on 05/17/2015 5:04:46 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
>>They are lost. They are not Christian.<<

So there is a point at which you would say they are not of "us all"?

885 posted on 05/17/2015 5:13:01 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Unbelievers are lost. I’ve never strayed from it being believers who are saved in any post EVER on this religion forum.

Do you believe in loss of salvation?


886 posted on 05/17/2015 5:20:35 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Elsie

That inspires a lot of confidence in the magiterium, doesn’t it?


887 posted on 05/17/2015 5:49:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: tjd1454; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon; Mark17
You have a short memory or are ignorant of history and elitist RC claims. And what Scripture says the response should be. Rome has made herself an enemy of God. And see for yourself which type of "Christianity" is more on the side of liberals.

I have bachelor and graduate degrees from preeminent Evangelical Protestant colleges, and a Ph.D. in religion and theology from a Jesuit University. From which institutions of higher learning, pray tell, did you receive your degrees in theology?

The same one disciples as Peter and John did, while your pedigree simply renders you more accountable for censuring those who attack Roman Catholicism for its multitudes of errors. I suppose the Reformation itself was unnecessary also. Do you want to defend Rome and her deformation of the NT church (not that evangelicalism does not fall short) or dismiss such as superfluous?

888 posted on 05/17/2015 10:29:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: CynicalBear
So there is a point at which you would say they are not of "us all"?

UH...

...as soon as GOD gives up on them?

889 posted on 05/17/2015 3:12:49 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xzins
Unbelievers are lost.

Seems like I've read that; somewhere.

Maybe in the third chapter of John IIRC.

About the eighteenth verse...

890 posted on 05/17/2015 3:14:19 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; StormPrepper; teppe; Normandy; WilliamRobert
In Mormoniusm; if you do NOT go along with EVERYTHING that the leadership espouses; you are in grave danger of APOSTACY!!



 



 
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the 'prophets, seers, and revelators' of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostacy..."
(Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)
 
 
 
Reinforced here......
 

MP3 File

This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:

"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."
 

 
Don't criticize?

 
 
 
 
And here:
 

Temple Recommend Questions:

 1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

 2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

 3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

 4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

 5 Do you live the law of chastity?

 6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

 7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

 8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

 9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

     Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?

     Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 
 
 
 


Oh, they can say that their leaders were NOT speaking for GOD when they said    WHATEVER    but that's NOT the same as criticizing!


 
( Remember fellow Christians:  the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )



891 posted on 05/17/2015 3:16:40 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Bkmk


892 posted on 05/17/2015 5:01:46 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: boatbums

No one has any idea what your interpretation is about overall beliefs — however, we do know that specific to this case, your specific, individual interpretation clashes with the interpretation of the majority of Christians in this time and in past ages, up to apostolic times. However, if you want to have your own intrepration that disagrees with those who chronologically are closer to Christ’s time, then that’s your choice


893 posted on 05/18/2015 1:47:59 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
However, if you want to have your own intrepration that disagrees with those who chronologically are closer to Christ’s time, then that’s your choice

We Prots AGREE with YOUR church's leader's 'interpretation' (Plain reading) of ...


As regards the oft-quoted Mt. 16:18

 

Augustine, sermon:

"Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter's confession. What is Peter's confession? 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' There's the rock for you, there's the foundation, there's where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer.John Rotelle, O.S.A., Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine , © 1993 New City Press, Sermons, Vol III/6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327

Upon this rock, said the Lord, I will build my Church. Upon this confession, upon this that you said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God,' I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not conquer her (Mt. 16:18). John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City, 1993) Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 236A.3, p. 48.

 

Augustine, sermon:

For petra (rock) is not derived from Peter, but Peter from petra; just as Christ is not called so from the Christian, but the Christian from Christ. For on this very account the Lord said, 'On this rock will I build my Church,' because Peter had said, 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.' On this rock, therefore, He said, which thou hast confessed, I will build my Church. For the Rock (Petra) was Christ; and on this foundation was Peter himself built. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Christ Jesus. The Church, therefore, which is founded in Christ received from Him the keys of the kingdom of heaven in the person of Peter, that is to say, the power of binding and loosing sins. For what the Church is essentially in Christ, such representatively is Peter in the rock (petra); and in this representation Christ is to be understood as the Rock, Peter as the Church. — Augustine Tractate CXXIV; Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers: First Series, Volume VII Tractate CXXIV (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf107.iii.cxxv.html)

 

Augustine, sermon:

And Peter, one speaking for the rest of them, one for all, said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God (Mt 16:15-16)...And I tell you: you are Peter; because I am the rock, you are Rocky, Peter-I mean, rock doesn't come from Rocky, but Rocky from rock, just as Christ doesn't come from Christian, but Christian from Christ; and upon this rock I will build my Church (Mt 16:17-18); not upon Peter, or Rocky, which is what you are, but upon the rock which you have confessed. I will build my Church though; I will build you, because in this answer of yours you represent the Church. — John Rotelle, O.S.A. Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 270.2, p. 289

 

Augustine, sermon:

Peter had already said to him, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' He had already heard, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona, because flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of the underworld shall not conquer her' (Mt 16:16-18)...Christ himself was the rock, while Peter, Rocky, was only named from the rock. That's why the rock rose again, to make Peter solid and strong; because Peter would have perished, if the rock hadn't lived. — John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City, 1993) Sermons, Volume III/7, Sermon 244.1, p. 95

 

Augustine, sermon:

...because on this rock, he said, I will build my Church, and the gates of the underworld shall not overcome it (Mt. 16:18). Now the rock was Christ (1 Cor. 10:4). Was it Paul that was crucified for you? Hold on to these texts, love these texts, repeat them in a fraternal and peaceful manner. — John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1995), Sermons, Volume III/10, Sermon 358.5, p. 193

 

Augustine, Psalm LXI:

Let us call to mind the Gospel: 'Upon this Rock I will build My Church.' Therefore She crieth from the ends of the earth, whom He hath willed to build upon a Rock. But in order that the Church might be builded upon the Rock, who was made the Rock? Hear Paul saying: 'But the Rock was Christ.' On Him therefore builded we have been. — Philip Schaff, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1956), Volume VIII, Saint Augustin, Exposition on the Book of Psalms, Psalm LXI.3, p. 249. (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf108.ii.LXI.html)

 

• Augustine, in “Retractions,”

In a passage in this book, I said about the Apostle Peter: 'On him as on a rock the Church was built.'...But I know that very frequently at a later time, I so explained what the Lord said: 'Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church,' that it be understood as built upon Him whom Peter confessed saying: 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,' and so Peter, called after this rock, represented the person of the Church which is built upon this rock, and has received 'the keys of the kingdom of heaven.' For, 'Thou art Peter' and not 'Thou art the rock' was said to him. But 'the rock was Christ,' in confessing whom, as also the whole Church confesses, Simon was called Peter. But let the reader decide which of these two opinions is the more probable. — The Fathers of the Church (Washington D.C., Catholic University, 1968), Saint Augustine, The Retractations Chapter 20.1:.

 

894 posted on 05/18/2015 4:04:59 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
We Prots AGREE with YOUR church's ....

Makes ME wonder what CHANGED in the One True Church to have this guy tossed under the bus...

895 posted on 05/18/2015 4:05:50 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
But he didn’t get divorced and remarried, etc, so that try to smear him failed. Besides, he still had lightyears to go to reach the level of corruption found in the popes of his day.

No, but he could have....wouldn't have made any difference....and he wasn't as bad as some POPES..probably not but how deep into Hell do you want to go???? Hell is Hell.

896 posted on 05/18/2015 7:11:45 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: metmom
FOTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kind of chuckled at that too!!!

897 posted on 05/18/2015 7:13:33 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Elsie
If Luther and others had NOT come along and slapped Rome to attention; who knows HOW many torture chambers YOUR church would be operating today?

O-O-O-O-O-O...the naughty Popes list....10 out of how many?....and Jesus had 1 out of 12 turn out bad.....The catholic church is doing just fine....

898 posted on 05/18/2015 7:18:16 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Elsie
( Remember fellow Christians: the Mormon's criticize US because they've been taught that they CAN'T criticize ANY of their leaders; so they HAVE to vent somehow! )

Why do you insist on bringing Mormon doctrine into a Christian discussion.....who cares what they teach???

899 posted on 05/18/2015 7:25:19 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: wardaddy
"Man would I not be a scary dogfood ugly woman"
====================================

There once was a fellow named Jenner
Who wanted to be a transgender
His name had been Brucie
But he changed it to Lucy
And now he's one homely pretender.

  
900 posted on 05/18/2015 8:33:18 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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