Posted on 04/20/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by NYer
I concur with that...
I always heard there we 2 kinds of people in the world...ME, and those that wish they were...
Additionally, there IS no solid proof that the "saint" to whom one directs his petitions actually IS in heaven and has said "influence" with the Almighty.
It always gave me this "woo-woo" feeling as a little kid learning about said "saints" and the things they supposedly experienced which convinced the powers that be to canonize them as "Saints" in the first place. Though many FRoman Catholics deny over and over that God's glory is NOT being "shared" by an unworthy creation of His, you can't help but remain unconvinced when you look into the various processes that go on to bring the Catholic church to the conclusion that said "saint" really is a "Saint". A certain number of "miracles" must be directly attributed to this person's intercession and verified (I think three (3) is the going rate). A life of devotion, or a trial of faith, or some miraculous event (usually described BY the would-be "saint") or a supposed appearance of a vision or apparition, are considered enough to get the ball rolling towards full canonization and being declared a "Saint", making this person venerable, or worthy of veneration.
I remain unconvinced, as I see the glory, honor, parades, feast days, portraits, statues, etc. done in the name of this individual, that the TRUE glory for anything that might happen is diverted from the ONE to whom ALL the glory belongs. Almighty God becomes a postscript to the praise directed to the "Saint" for their perceived "in" with God in order to get what is being asked for. Having Catholic family members, I don't recall the excuses reasons for WHY some requests fail to be answered. It never seems to be fault of the "Saint" - much like the failures of so-called "faith healers" when their gift does not bring about the healing needed.
Personally. I think it's a sham started in the early Middle Ages with "relics" designed to draw the gullible to pilgrimages - with their $$ - to the seat of religious royalty in order to KEEP them in power and luxury. I highly doubt St. Peter would have approved.
Yes indeed. You are still mistaking what is being posted here and that aspect of the discussion. Deliberately, I wonder.
Matthew 24, 1Corinthians 15, 1Thessalonians 4:16-18, Revelation 20:6
The word says that the son is at the right hand of the Father.
It doesn’t say that we are to call anything a trinity, nor does it suggest in any way that they are three. Their spirit is how they come to us.
Who was in the burning bush? Go look. It will mess with your head.
A carnal religion, that one is.
I trust the Lord to care for all the sheep of that pen who are His and are being delivered from the evil around them via their ignorance/innocence/child-like faith in Jesus Christ alone.
Simply stated, I trust God to protect his Children wherever they may find themselves.
Anytime God makes an appearance on Planet Earth in Scripture, I think of the One known as Jesus of Nazareth. Is that what you meant?
No turtles?
Though I'd rather not get anyone down
those who have obviously been lifted up to places where
they don't belong should be given the boot.
Should be a lower-case “c” on “children”.
Something close to that. Really. Go read it. It is the 'Angel of the Lord' in the burning bush, who calls himself YHWH and I AM, and accepts worship.
No man has seen God, but many men have seen God, even walked with him, and ate with him - That has to be quantified, as both statements are true according to the Bible... As is this one:
Hear O Israel! Our God is one God!
On Monday the Bishop Of Rome addressed Catholic followers regarding the dire importance of exhibiting religious tolerance. During his hour-long speech, a smiling Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.
“Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Jehovah, Allah. These are all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world. For centuries, blood has been needlessly shed because of the desire to segregate our faiths. This, however, should be the very concept which unites us as people, as nations, and as a world bound by faith. Together, we can bring about an unprecedented age of peace, all we need to achieve such a state is respect each others beliefs, for we are all children of God regardless of the name we choose to address him by. We can accomplish miraculous things in the world by merging our faiths, and the time for such a movement is now. No longer shall we slaughter our neighbors over differences in reference to their God.”
The pontiff drew harsh criticisms in December after photos of the 78-year-old Catholic leader was released depicting Pope Francis kissing a Koran. The Muslim Holy Book was given to Francis during a meeting with Muslim leaders after a lengthy Muslim prayer held at the Vatican. - See more at: http://nationalreport.net/pope-francis-followers-koran-holy-bible/#sthash.D05hcTxf.dpuf -
Yep!
He used every name that he could go by in that chapter.
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Not at all; it is very evident there are nonCatholics and/or former Catholics here who do not believe that the Jews worship the same God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as they purport to worship themselves. The Catholic Catechism, on the other hand, teaches otherwise and I am grateful not to be in an antiSemitic faith community.
False; both the Hebrew and Genesis indicate otherwise.
Both Hebrew and Arabic combine their language's respective word, not name, for God to form names. In the case of a Hebrew, El means God and in Arabic, alLa means "The God." Ishmael's name means "God will hear." The angel of the LORD chose his name. And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur. And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me? Wherefore the well was called Beerlahairoi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered. And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael. And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.
Genesis, Catholic chapter sixteen, Protestant verses seven to sixteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James
The same way you avoid stating the fact that Mother of GOD is not found in the Bible.
Elsie, I have stated in several posts that the phrase “mother of God” is not found in Scripture, including posts addressed to you. You might remember one such post where I made a type that you were quick to notice. See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3271436/replies?c=713
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3271436/posts?page=744#744
There are many similar posts in that thread.
Amen
Oh, they have one -- that they are still waiting to return to them...
Meanwhile, it seems to myself that some among them see glimmers of the Life (Spirit) of the Word -- though some seem to not see... being either wrapped up in humanism/secularisms that they've become untethered from their moorings (theologically-religiously speaking), or else to opposite extreme so letter-of-law hide-bound and hind-bound in thinking themselves (by blood lineage) descendants of Abraham they just might take up stones against anyone who dares tell them different.
Yes, Jesus did do that. Make unmistakable claim to being deity (God) but saying so in many ways included what else you also pointed towards;
invoking there being the Great I Am whom when Moses asked --
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