Posted on 04/20/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT by NYer
False; why did you use the word "God" instead of "god" as you did for the others ?
Do you think the other Protestants here concur with you ?
https://carm.org/do-christians-muslims-jews-worship-same-god
..which was the whole reason Israel was blinded and set aside in Acts 28. They WILL profess Him one day (the tribulation) and He will restore Israel to its former glory and rule and reign from Jerusalem. But until that time, there is the present time, the dispensation of the grace of God, where there is neither Jew nor Gentile, we are the same before God. He is making of Himself one new man, the Church, the Body of Christ. When the last member of the Body is saved, we will be raptured and He will once again turn His eyes to Israel and the covenants He made with that nation.
John 4:23,24"But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24"God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."Islam teaches (see the Koran) that ALL Jews and ALL Christians and all infidels must be killed.
See the word "must" enlarged above?
What God would accept worship from a "religion" that wants all of his true followers KILLED?
I'm sure God knows that Allah is a false god and that is the "god" that Islam worships.
Yes, Islam is a monotheistic religion that worships the God of Abraham, albeit in grave error. As you point out, so do other Protestant derivatives that may be called cults or religions
Do not twist my words into what you wish to respond to.
First, NO, Islam is a monotheistic religion that claims they worship the God of Abraham. If you believe their lie, fine but do NOT change the meaning of my words to fit your agenda.
Your statement "As you point out, so do other Protestant derivatives that may be called cults or religions" is a blatant false "interpretation" of what I said.
This is what I said for comparison:
One of the main tactics to get people to follow Islam is to lie. Naturally they will claim they follow the God of Abraham.Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus is God, so they do not worship the God of the Bible.So, as do the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, they are deceiving many people in order to create a world of Muslims only.
They use a name for God also, so do you accept them as a Christian belief system?
Mormons worship a god that used to be a man, they do not worship the God of the Bible.
They call God Heavenly Father, so because the God of the Bible is called the Heavenly Father, do you believe Mormons worship the God of the Bible?
That old canard of Allah just being another word for God is getting old. The "god" Allah is NOT the God of the Bible.
The issue is not whether they are in grave error (they are) and their particular scriptures are false (they are), but whether they recognize that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the one and only true God (they do)
That is the issue you want, not me.
The issue is that even satan knows who the real God of the Bible is.
And he is the god of Islam. Satan.
He's got them fooled, and apparently you too.
Do not post anymore statements and ideas that falsely portray what I have said.
That is deceptive, false, in error, wrong and makes your responses completely inaccurate.
A bit more complex than the above. That's what the Muslims want people to believe. However, with Muslims Allah functions as the proper name of the deity. According to the Holy Scriptures, the one noun which functions as God's true and proper name is YHWH(Yahweh), not Allah.
YHWH made His Name known to Israel. YHWH is not the revealed Name in the Qur'an. Muhammad received his 'visions' or revelation from Satan or demons so we should never pony up to a Muslim and say we have the same God. Plus YHWH will not confuse and He set His Son's Name above all others.
The Qur'an does not place the Name of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ (Messiah) "which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
The Qur'an is a false message and Muhammad a false prophet. Why should followers of Messiah Jesus try to even hint the Muslims worship the same God?
Correct me if I am wrong, for if I am remembering correctly Jesus did not tell anyone that he was God quote-unquote, but instead told them that same truth in a different way, telling the people that He was the son of God.
According to the Hebrew traditions which included that a son be equal to the father --- that would have made it out to be that Jesus was telling them that He was God, was equal to God.
Jesus said a lot of things...such as "If you have seen me you have seen the Father".
It is common enough for Christians to not necessarily take that particular saying of Jesus's to mean that Jesus was saying that He himself was the Father, as if there was no distinguishing one from another in utmost entirety.
As difficult as that can be to sort out (for they are truly One in higher spiritual reality, not just "as" one poetically, or as a manner of rhetorical description) it seems not at all likely to me that Jesus was as much saying that God the Father looked just like himself in physical appearance.
You’ll be surprised.
From behind, you can’t tell whether they are nuns or muzlims with fancied up burqas...
Not at all...
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Unless you think God had a mouse in his pocket...
""Your father Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad." The people said, "You aren't even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?" Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!""
.that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins"--he then said to the paralytic--"Rise, pick up your bed and go home." And he rose and went home. When the crowds saw it, they were afraid, and they glorified God..."7 He said to them, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins."8
"When John heard in prison what Christ was doing, he sent his disciples to ask him, 'Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?' Jesus replied, 'Go back and report to John what you hear and see; The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor.'"
The jews saw His claims as being he was God
Furthermore, Jesus made an unmistakable claim to deity before the chief priests and the whole Sanhedrin. Caiaphas the high priest asked Him: “‘Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?’ ‘I am,’ said Jesus. ‘And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven’” (Mark14:61–62). A biblically illiterate person might well have missed the import of Jesus’ words. Caiaphas and the council, however, did not. They knew that in saying he was “the Son of Man” who would come “on the clouds of heaven” he was making an overt reference to the Son of Man in Daniel’s prophecy (Dan. 7:13–14). In doing so, He was not only claiming to be the preexistent Sovereign of the universe but prophesying that He would vindicate His claim by judging the very court that was now condemning Him. Moreover, by combining Daniel’s prophecy with David’s proclamation in Psalm 110, Jesus was claiming that He would sit upon the throne of Israel’s God and share God’s very glory. To students of the Old Testament this was the height of “blasphemy,” thus “they all condemned him as worthy of death” (Mark14:64–65).
http://www.equip.org/article/did-jesus-claim-to-be-god/
Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
It would be through Isaac that Abraham's seed would be named.
Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Ishmael is called the seed of Hagar but never called the seed of Abraham. It was 13 years after the birth of Ishmael that God changed Abram to Abraham and promised:
Genesis 17:7 "And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your seed after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your seed after you. 8 And I will give to you and to your seed after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God.
Notice that God never said He would be the God of the seed of Hagar. When Abraham said he wanted Ishmael to live before God he was told no that it was going to Isaac.
Genesis 17:18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! 19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
God never said He would be a God to Ishmael. He said He would be a God to Isaac. Ishmael didn't preach the God of His fathers so already there they are injecting a different god.
But God doesn't have a physical appearance, except for Jesus, who is God... I love the way that works...
BINGO!!!
Yes, but don't forget the god of the INC, and the god of Apollo C Quiboloy. Two more false gods.
Thank you!
If no one else comes to mind at prayer time; think of me.
Although you know I don't think having Mary or any saint involved will add any thing; I know that GOD sees your heart and your intentions.
Paul preached the Gospel and the Jews of Berea searched the scriptures to confirm his proclamations. Meaning, they used the infallible Word of God to see if Paul was preaching a truth. The text did not say that the Jews of Berea searched the scriptures to confirm Paul's apostolic authority. They leaned on the authority of God's Word to confirm the message spoken.
It's what they've been Taught!
Evidently the Catholic Church can't tell the difference.
We get this!
We also 'get' the FACT that the phrase 'Mother of GOD' is NOT found in Scripture.
Have Catholics been taught they'll lose their salvation if they merely ADMIT this?
Oh my! That didn't take long.
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