Posted on 04/02/2015 11:56:13 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
I am sad at the news of fellow Iowan Dr. Robert Schuller and pray for the comfort of the Lord on his family. However, I am very concerned for his soul. Dr. Robert Schuller was a prolific false teacher whose errant teachings destroyed thousands, if not millions (especially old ladies who could not drive to church who clung to his false TV teachings - some of whom I knew personally).
Dr. Schuller is gone, but the damage he wrought on the Christian Church persists in his younger disciples (e.g. Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, etc.) The following is a short subset of the many heretical teachings that this 'wolf in sheep's clothing' introduced...(please feel free to add your own Robert Schuller heresies)...
Schuller - We enter the Kingdom of God when we have a dream
focus on the dream
[and] fuel the dream (Hour of Power TV broadcast 25/3/01) Schuller - The Church needs a theology that is man-centred, not God-centred (Hour of Power TV Broadcast)
Schuller - Jesus bore the cross to sanctify our self esteem.
Schuller - Self-love is the ultimate will of man (Self Esteem: The New Reformation, 1982).
Schuller - Focus on the things the major faiths can agree on.
Schuller - Transcendental Meditation, Zen Buddhism and yoga are valid methods for harnessing Gods divine laws.
Schuller - Its time to go to the Pope and say, what do we have to do to come home? (1987).
Schuller - If he came back and found his grandchildren were Muslims it wouldnt bother him. (Hour of Power)
Schuller - When the Bible says a people without a vision perish it is talking about the inner eye of visualisation (Psychology Today, 1985).
Schuller - AND WHAT IS 'HELL'? IT IS THE LOSS OF PRIDE THAT NATURALLY FOLLOWS SEPARATION FROM GOD--the ultimate and unfailing source of our soul's sense of self-respect. (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 14-15, 93).
Schuller - What do I mean by sin? Answer: 'SIN IS ANY ACT OR THOUGHT THAT ROBS MYSELF OR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING OF HIS OR HER SELF-ESTEEM (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 14).
Schuller - THE FATHERHOOD OF GOD OFFERS A DEEP SPIRITUAL CURE FOR THE INFERIORITY COMPLEX AND LAYS THE FIRM FOUNDATION FOR A SOLID SPIRITUAL SELF-ESTEEM (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 60).
Schuller - Classical theology DEFINES SIN AS 'REBELLION AGAINST GOD.' The answer is not incorrect as much as IT IS SHALLOW AND INSULTING TO THE HUMAN BEING.(Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 65).
Schuller - The core of original sin, Lack of Trust. Or, it could be considered an innate inability to adequately value ourselves. Label it a 'negative self-image,' but DO NOT SAY THAT THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE HUMAN SOUL IS WICKEDNESS. ... POSITIVE CHRISTIANITY DOES NOT HOLD TO HUMAN DEPRAVITY, BUT TO HUMAN INABILITY. I am humanly unable to correct my negative self-image until I encounter a life-changing experience with non-judgmental love bestowed upon me by a Person whom I admire so much that to be unconditionally accepted by him is to be born again (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 67).
Schuller - TO BE BORN AGAIN MEANS THAT WE MUST BE CHANGED FROM A NEGATIVE TO A POSITIVE SELF-IMAGE--from inferiority to self-esteem, from fear to love, from doubt to trust (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 68).
Schuller - THE CROSS SANCTIFIES THE EGO TRIP. FOR THE CROSS PROTECTED OUR LORD'S PERFECT SELF-ESTEEM FROM TURNING INTO SINFUL PRIDE (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 75).
Schuller - ESSENTIALLY, IF CHRISTIANITY IS TO SUCCEED IN THE NEXT MILLENNIUM, IT MUST CEASE TO BE A NEGATIVE RELIGION AND MUST BECOME POSITIVE (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 104).
Schuller - JESUS NEVER CALLED A PERSON A SINNER. ... Rather he reserved his righteous rebuke for those who used their religious authority to generate guilt and caused people to lose their ability to taste and enjoy their right to dignity... (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 100,126).
Schuller - Christ is the Ideal One, for HE WAS SELF-ESTEEM INCARNATE (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 135).
Schuller - EXERCISING NARROW AUTHORITARIANISM IN DOCTRINES AND PRACTICES AND BY SOWING SEEDS OF SUSPICION AND DISSENSION IN THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY. (Schuller, Self-Esteem, pp. 153-154).
Schuller - The classical error of historical Christianity is that we have never started with the value of the person. Rather, WE HAVE STARTED FROM THE 'UNWORTHINESS OF THE SINNER,' AND THAT STARTING POINT HAS SET THE STAGE FOR THE GLORIFICATION OF HUMAN SHAME in Christian theology (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 162).
I'm not saying you will believe it, but I think it might address some of the misconceptions.
You can also FReepMail me with questions.
PS: The PC-USA is a liberal denomination that has mostly left its reformed roots and adherence to the Bible. I'm not sure what they preach anymore. Best bet is to ask people from the PCA or OPC (sorry for the slight to the continentals out there).
I am not a follower but amazed at how many people on this thread sit on God’s thrown and judge. Well done. Pat yourself on the back.
Christians are supposed to judge right from wrong, and avoid the wrong.
“... Best bet is to ask people from the PCA or OPC (sorry for the slight to the continentals out there).” is referring to reformed theology, not the PC-USA teachings.
I am not a follower but amazed at how many people on this thread sit on Gods thrown and judge. Well done. Pat yourself on the back.
Hey PCA's and OPC's --- can you enlighten me on these questions? For instance, what I asked at #40.
He was a great writer, he has engaged many with his books.. but not sure if he was a saved writer
“Old Floatie”
Sorry to hear this news. It sounds like his last few years were not very good.
“I would rather attempt something GREAT and fail than do nothing and succeed.” — Robert Schuller
Schuller apparently is not of your particular branch of Christianity, but he was a solid teacher, preacher, and author.
Not at all.
He was a great writer, he has engaged many with his books.. but not sure if he was a saved writer
C.S. Lewis was not a Fundamentalist. He was one of those "respectable," intellectual, theological types. His universal acceptance by every church and theology out there has always puzzled me.
He was also a "theistic evolutionist."
Lewis converted to, and died in, old-fashioned High Church Anglicanism. Tolkien, who inspired his conversion, always resented the fact that Lewis didn't join him in the Catholic Church.
Yes, Lewis was theologically "conservative" on most issues and wrote good books. But anybody from the Bible Belt (like yours truly) knows that between the Lewis's, Buckleys, and Muggeridge's and and the simple Fundamentalist Protestant preacher there is a gulf that is larger than worlds.
From what I have read about him, I judge he was, indeed, a righteous man.
“I do not believe God creates people to destroy them. God is Love and Light.”
I agree with you.
http://www.amazon.de/And-So-Are-We/dp/B002EWFTR6
You can always pray for the living and the dead. Remember, their bodies die, but their souls are alive.
I’ll be honest. I don’t know WHAT the Pope is trying to say half the time, so you may be right.
He was a horrible person. (A neighbor in Hawaii)
As I am. If I may say so, it doesn't sound very Christian and it's one reason many people have a problem with Christianity.
BS. It a slimy lie, created by someone who hates both Schuller and the Catholic Church and thinks by associating them he can smear them both. You better ask for proof before spreading falsehoods.
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