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To: StormPrepper
"Plus, a true prophet will write down their communications with God and those writings will be considered scripture."

Curious statement considering that most, if not all Journal of Discourses writings by mormon prophets have been deemed "opinions" and dismissed as scripture by SLC.

But it's even more curious that numerous prophets, including one JS stated that this is not so.

From BY: "I know just as well what to teach this people and just what to say to them and what to do in order to bring them into the celestial kingdom...I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call Scripture. Let me have the privilege of correcting a sermon, and it is as good Scripture as they deserve. The people have the oracles of God continually." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 95).

The Prefaces to Volumes 4 and 8 include comments from “The Publisher.” which are of a similar thought. Volume 4 says:

“It would be altogether gratuitious and uncalled-for, on our part, to write a commendatory preface to the discourses of the First Presidency and Twelve Apostles of this Church. To the Saints their words are as the words of God, their teachings fraught with heavenly wisdom, and their directions leading to salvation and eternal lives.”

The Preface of Volume 8 says:

“The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every Number as it comes forth from the press as an additional reflector of `light that shines from Zion hill.”

“CONFERENCE ADDRESSES ARE WORD OF LORD — This Church has been continually led by the spirit of revelation. The spirit of revelation has been here in our conference. The addresses that have been delivered have been made under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and they are the word of God unto this people, binding upon them, and they will be judged by these words that we have heard. If we do not listen to these instructions and counsels and abide by the word of God as it is given to us from time to time, we shall be held to a strict accountability” (George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth: Discourses and Writings of President George Q. Cannon 1:329).

I will refer to a certain meeting I attended in the town of Kirtiand in my early days. At that meeting some remarks were made that have been made here today, with regard to the living oracles and with regard to the written word of God. The same principle was presented, although not as extensively as it has been here, when a leading man in the Church got up and talked upon the subject, and said: "You have got the word of God before you here in the Bible, Book of Mormon, and Doctrine and Covenants; you have the written word of God, and you who give revelations should give revelations according to those books, as what is written in those books is the word of God. We should confine ourselves to them."

When he concluded, Brother Joseph turned to Brother Brigham Young and said, "Brother Brigham, I want you to take the stand and tell us your views with regard to the living oracles and the written word of God." Brother Brigham took the stand, and he took the Bible, and laid it down; he took the Book of Mormon, and laid it down; and he took the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, and laid it down before him, and he said: "There is the written word of God to us, concerning the work of God from the beginning of the world, almost, to our day. And now," said he, "when compared with the living oracles those books are nothing to me; those books do not convey the word of God direct to us now, as do the words of a Prophet or a man bearing the Holy Priesthood in our day and generation. I would rather have the living oracles than all the writing in the books." That was the course he pursued. When he was through, Brother Joseph said to the congregation: "Brother Brigham has told you the word of the Lord, and he has told you the truth." [in Conference Report, October 1897, pp. 18-19)

763 posted on 03/26/2015 10:26:58 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

Yes. Thank you for your instructive post.

I’ve given thought to your tagline and, at this time, agree with you.


765 posted on 03/26/2015 10:32:07 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SZonian
Curious statement considering that most, if not all Journal of Discourses writings by mormon prophets have been deemed "opinions" and dismissed as scripture by SLC.

The JoD wasn't written by the prophet. The JoD was written in short-hand from talks and sermons by someone that heard the prophet. It was later sent off to be transcribed by someone that wasn't there. So, JoD is actually the interpretation of the short-hand by someone who never heard the prophet.

A symbol in short-hand could mean what ever the interpreter thinks it means.

The JoD is not considered scripture. The end result are not the words of the prophet but the words of the interpreter.

Wow, you sure spent a lot of effort on that mole hill to mountain build up too...
768 posted on 03/26/2015 11:01:29 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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