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Richard III returns to Bosworth Field for final time
The Telegraph ^ | 3/22/2015 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 03/22/2015 11:44:34 AM PDT by Prospero

The last time Richard III was at Bosworth Field the outcome proved less than satisfactory for the King.

The battle, which was the last significant skirmish in the War of the Roses, saw Richard not only lose the English throne but also his life.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; catholic; godsgravesglyphs; plantagenet; richard; york
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To: lone star annie
Robert Stillington was no witness and no one believed him at the time. He was a proven libeler. Edward had had Stillington thrown in prison for spreading rumors about his marriage in exchange for favors from his other brother, George. Richard simply dug him up and used him for his own purposes. Where was the girl Edward supposedly contracted a marriage with? Why didn't she or her family raise the issue? Who did the mother of the boys believe killed them?

Making the princes bastards was never going to be a permanent solution for Richard. Richard was unpopular and those boys would have been the focus of rebellion when they matured. Parliament had made them illigitimate and Parliament could reverse the decree with a vote, as indeed they did after Henry took the crown. Richard would never have been safe on the throne and his offspring would have had to face constant challenges as long as hi brother's sons lived. Henry Tudor was of the Beaufort line which had been blocked from the succession for generations, so Richard thought killing the boys eliminated the only legitimate challengers to his rule. He did it.

41 posted on 03/23/2015 5:09:15 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: ops33
Winter King: Henry VII and the Dawn of Tudor England by Thomas Penn
42 posted on 03/23/2015 6:49:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Google "tiny kitten pictures," and put down the gun.)
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To: TontoKowalski

The White Queen on Amazon was a very well done series that I thoroughly enjoyed.

It linked the death of Henry VI to Edward II, Elizabeth Woodville marriage to Edward II, the death of Edwards brother George’s drowning in Malmsey wine, the Kingmakers Daughter and Richard’s usurping the throne from the young princes, Stanley’s army......etc.

There is a lot of history in the series. I only wish it would go beyond Henry VII becoming King on the battlefield. He was a truly amazing charector that deserves more exposure.


43 posted on 03/23/2015 8:50:47 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: spokeshave; nickcarraway

44 posted on 03/23/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: SeeSharp
First married when she was three years old. Second marriage when she was twelve. A pregnant widow at thirteen. I'll bet she was tough.

and tenacious. She had a destiny and she fulfilled it. She made sure that Henry was safe until the day that he could return to England to claim the throne that, she truly believed, God had commanded.

45 posted on 03/23/2015 8:55:55 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Tax-chick

Thank you, will look for it on my kindle


46 posted on 03/23/2015 9:46:46 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Conservative4Ever
Yes it's the same, I don't know why Cornwell started calling them the Saxon Stories instead of Tales. One interesting fact is that Cornwell is actually descended from the rulers of Bebbenburg (now Bamburgh) which still exists, some of whom were named Uhtred, though it's by no means intended as a biography. It's certainly every bit as imposing a fortress as Cornwell describes, though of course back then it was only an earth and wood fortress, not a stone castle.


47 posted on 03/23/2015 11:49:03 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: SeeSharp

Thank you for the helpful distinction between the house of York and the Tudors. The animosity of Henry VIII for Richard III makes more sense now.


48 posted on 03/23/2015 10:53:06 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: kalee

For later


49 posted on 03/23/2015 11:31:27 PM PDT by kalee
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To: skeeter

Quite so...and when its your life on the line, the horse is worth more than the kingdom.


50 posted on 03/28/2015 3:05:30 PM PDT by Vanders9
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