Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Wisdom from the dimwits who gave us Jim and Tammy Baker, Jimmy Swaggart and snake handling. I don’t thin so.
You mean who was literally standing at the base of the Cross watching Christ die? Well St.John was there, Mary Jesus's Mother was there and Mary Magdalene was there. Obviously are in Heaven. There are stories a couple Roman soldiers where converted that day. Oh yea. One of the two criminals Crucified with Christ that day.
Or do you mean who is "saved" Because Jesus lowered Himself to become human and taught us to was only salvation through Him? Everyone who seeks Jesus Christ as a means for Eternal Salvation.
Now at this point only a few realized who Christ Really was. Mary his Mom did Mary Magdalene may have. Peter, James and John knew for sure. One of my favorite Gospels The Transfiguration Dramatically demonstrated just who Jesus was to the three above. He brought him to that mountain top. If you recall that Gospel Peter, James, and John were terrified when that happened and Jesus ordered them not to say anything about this until after His Resurrection.
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The ancient Hebrew scriptures are the Gospel!
They show us every facet of Yeshua through the eyes and ears of Yehova’s prophets.
His tenure here on Earth allowed him to affirm each and every declaration of those prophets, and to denounce the error of those that devise human “traditions.”
The Holy Spirit speaks only to the individual elect, not to Satan’s Magisterium.
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You assert that there are no Torah observing Jews in the world, the evidence notwithstanding. Perhaps this was how you were raised and you just don't know any. Perhaps you deny that Jews are Jews. You can return our scriptures for a full refund and you shall have your reward.
Only A perfect man could die for sinful man...only man/God could pay the penalty we all deserve
The first one? Sure Even the Jews at that time knew the righteousness of God.
Only Jesus could die for a sinful man. Jesus had to die because the Resurrection is everything. Jesus rose from the dead to Prove he was God.
Prot misinterpretation of the Bible is Hooey
If you can’t show where God sanctioned praying for the dead just say so.
And just how do you figure that?
I only attack statements and beliefs of the Catholicism.
Oh to the contrary. Jesus said we must love God with our whole heart might and soul and to love our neighbor as ourselves. Jesus said "No greater love for a man to sacrifice his life for another". Jesus was probably telling us also He going to do just that to Save all Mankind from eternal death.
God is Holy.
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Funny, the apostles didn't see it that way!
Romans 10:
[1] Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[2] For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[3] For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[4] For Christ is the end (purpose) of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
[5] For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
[6] But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
[7] Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
[8] But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
[9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[11] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
[12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
[13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
[14] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
[15] And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
[16] But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
[17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
. Acts 28:
[21] And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.
[22] But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
[23] And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
[24] And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
[25] And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
[26] Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
[27] For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Every "Tradition" that the apostles preached is written in those scriptures that they preached each and every day.
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Hey FReind before you ignite your antisemitism fuse by putting words in my post, take a break and deep breaths.
Torah is written Law given by God. That is what God told Moses the Israelites must follow neither turning to the left nor right. Torah, that's it not Torah and the traditions of Aaron or his sons. We do know when man-made traditions were introduced the Israelites sinned by idolatry, sacrificing in the wrong places, and departed from God's Way His Torah. Jesus upheld Torah not man-made traditions. Period. I offered the reasoning in three posts now.
The Jews today cannot follow Torah fully especially the atonement because they have no temple. You know the history. So if you want to base a Christian theological practice (prayers for the dead) on man-made Jewish traditions Christ condemned have at it.
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>> “You assert that there are no Torah observing Jews in the world, the evidence notwithstanding.” <<
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What evidence would that be?
The evidence screams that they hate the Torah from God, and replace it with their own false torah of men, and die in their struggle to master the commandments of men, just as catholics do.
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Thank for the help.
"Funny, the apostles didn't see it that way!This is not included in the verses you posted.
Every "Tradition" that the apostles preached is written in those scriptures that they preached each and every day."
Because “”Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” is not in Holy Scripture.
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