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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^
| March 18,2015
| Mike Gendron
Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
1/14/2015 8:04:57 AM
Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
It Is Finished - Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
The perfect, all-sufficient sacrifice of Christ that satisfied divine justice for all believers was accomplished 2000 years ago. Jesus cried out in victory - "It is finished." The work of salvation is done. The eternal debt for sin has been paid in full. No more offerings, no more sacrifices, no more priests! The Lord Jesus willingly died for mans sins to pay the debt that we could never pay. He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness: by His wounds you have been healed" (1 Peter 2:24). Yet Catholics instead choose to trust in the sacrifice of the Mass, a blasphemous representation of a eucharistic Christ on an altar. They would rather trust the Sacrifice of the Mass as a sin offering to God rather than trusting in the one-time, all-sufficient, sacrifice of Christ.
Jesus appeared to take away sins once for all" by His sacrifice" (Hebrews 9:26). Through His blood God made Him the means of expiation (of sin) for all who believe" (Romans 3:25). Vatican II denies these sacred Scriptures by teaching: Sins must be expiated...on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, a above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments or purifying punishments (Vatican Council II). What a terrible deception to impose on faithful Roman Catholics who look to their church for the truth! The very reason and purpose Christ became man and suffered such an excruciating death was to expiate sin, once and for all, by His perfect sacrifice. How can any church, which claims to follow Christ, withhold this truth from its people and create in its place doctrines that nullify the Savior's finished work?
Roman Catholic teachings also nullify another accomplishment of Christ, the purification of sins. The writer of the book of Hebrews declared that "when He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1:3). The apostle John also proclaimed that those who trust Christ are purified from all sin, by His blood (1 John 1:7). Vatican Council II states that purgatory is where "those
who have not made satisfaction with adequate penance for their sins and omissions are cleansed after death with punishments designed to purge away their debt. Jesus reconciled the world to God, changing its relationship with God from hostility to harmony. The sinner is reconciled to God when he trusts in Christ as his Savior. "It is in Christ and through His blood that we have been redeemed and our sins are forgiven" (Eph. 1:7). Being reconciled to God is difficult for Catholics to comprehend, for they have been taught the only way to made peace with God is through a life long journey of works--receiving the sacraments, going to Mass and doing penance. The only response to the accomplishments of Christ that will reconcile anyone to God is repentance and faith.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: cross; expiation; purification; salvation
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To: G Larry
141
posted on
03/18/2015 5:54:51 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
To: SkyPilot; RetiredArmy
I asked a Catholic priest once how I could be sure I was going to heaven, and not hell. He stammered, looked very confused and perplexed, and finally said to me: "Well, uhhh, ummm, that is a Great Mystery."
Seems consistent with what the majority of FRoman Catholics have told me over the years.
142
posted on
03/18/2015 5:56:48 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
To: Chris777; Elsie; CynicalBear; metmom
Why post lies about catholics. Catholics believe without works, faith is dead. But only through faith is salvation.
You seem stressed. Perhaps you should say five “Our Fathers” and five “Hail Marys” along with a Rosary or two.
143
posted on
03/18/2015 6:00:52 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: G Larry
Will kissing the desiccated skull of a “saint” help?
144
posted on
03/18/2015 6:02:01 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: Resettozero; CynicalBear; Elsie; metmom
So, one would remain a Roman Catholic even if Lord Jesus Christ were to say “Come follow Me and none other.”
I asked one on FR. He replied he would say “Get behind me Satan.” Some are in too much in love with their false gods and idols to repent.
145
posted on
03/18/2015 6:03:51 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: DungeonMaster
Perhaps you have read other parts of John 6?
47 In all truth I tell you, everyone who believes has eternal life.
48 I am the bread of life.
49 Your fathers ate manna in the desert and they are dead;
50 but this is the bread which comes down from heaven, so that a person may eat it and not die.
51 I am the living bread which has come down from heaven. Anyone who eats this bread will live for ever; and the bread that I shall give is my flesh, for the life of the world.’
52 Then the Jews started arguing among themselves, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’
53 Jesus replied to them: In all truth I tell you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
54 Anyone who does eat my flesh and drink my blood has eternal life, and I shall raise that person up on the last day.
55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me and I live in that person.
57 As the living Father sent me and I draw life from the Father, so whoever eats me will also draw life from me.
58 This is the bread which has come down from heaven; it is not like the bread our ancestors ate: they are dead, but anyone who eats this bread will live for ever.
146
posted on
03/18/2015 6:04:48 PM PDT
by
G Larry
(Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Well said; God bless you!
147
posted on
03/18/2015 6:05:34 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: painter
Painter...tell me who was saved at the cross???Anyone??anyone??
God sent Jesus to earth to show us the true God and Savior of the world.
Jesus came to this earth to satisfy the wrath of God
Romans 3:24being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; 25whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; 26for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Propitiation ...3722. kaphar -- to cover over, pacify, make propitiation ... 3721, 3722. kaphar. 3722a . to cover over, pacify, make propitiation. Transliteration: kaphar Phonetic Spelling: (kaw-far') Short Definition: appease. ...
Jesus was sent to vindicate the righteousness of God
Only A perfect man could die for sinful man...only man/God could pay the penalty we all deserve
One more time..Who was saved at the cross???
To: RnMomof7
Just a pitiful hit and run?
The Roman Catholic Church follows the One True Christ.
There is no mechanism to prove your absurd statement.
149
posted on
03/18/2015 6:08:57 PM PDT
by
G Larry
(Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
To: Gamecock
She just asserted all Catholic Priests are pedophiles.
That IS bigoted and uninformed!
150
posted on
03/18/2015 6:11:31 PM PDT
by
G Larry
(Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
There is nothing in Catholic teaching to justify the statement that the Church encourages belief in a magical virtue, or physical curative efficacy residing in relics.
151
posted on
03/18/2015 6:15:11 PM PDT
by
G Larry
(Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
To: G Larry
152
posted on
03/18/2015 6:25:16 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: RnMomof7
Jesus came to this earth to satisfy the wrath of GodA terribly incomplete picture... and very instructive of our differing perspective.
Yes, He died for us. He died to redeem us. However, God is not put into a box. God doesn't seek to condemn us and Jesus wasn't simply suffering the punishment of a vengeful God. God is Love. He is a loving and reproving Father. He is also just. In every oath, there is the blessing and the curse... blessing in obedience, curse in failure. Following the faithful act of Abraham, God swore by Himself a covenant with Abraham to fulfill the promises He had made. The covenants we broke with God required a price we couldn't pay.
The Old Testament expectations of the Christ were of one who would provide temporal relief for Israel. But God did something new and entirely unexpected with Jesus...
The story begins with an understanding of the meaning of covenant. Many see Jesus on the Cross and think in juridical terms (condemned by our sins) or even contractual terms (He paid the price), and these are true... but insufficient. He is the sacrificial offering of the New Covenant. Covenant differs from contract as much as marriage differs from prostitution. One is family-making, the other is a business arrangement.
Since our fall in the Garden of Eden, God has been rebuilding His Family... following the same model as our Creation. In the Creation account, He worked by days fixing the conditions of this new reality (it was taho wabahuwithout form and void). He started by providing first the form and second the inhabitants. In the first three days, He separated light from dark (day one), separated the waters above and below (day two) and gave us dry land with vegetation (day three). He then filled these realms; sun and moon (day four), birds and fish (day five), and animals and man (day six). He rested on the seventh day not out of fatigue but to mark his creation with a covenant... the number seven is a covenantal number. We broke this covenant through disobedience. While some see Original Sin as a stain passed down, it may be better understood as something we lost and could not regain ourselves. We lost our covenantal relationship with God... our kinship. So God set out to start again...
After the flood, the Earth had form and it wasnt void. God was rebuilding our covenantal relationship this time. God made His first starting-over covenant with Noah and his family with the seven colors of the rainbow. God then made His family-rebuilding covenant with Abraham in the form of a three-fold promise... the land, a nation and all men blessed through him. God affirmed His covenant with Isaac (because Abraham had another son, Ishmael). God confirmed His covenant again with Jacob (because Isaac thought to pass his blessing through Esau). In these promises, the unbroken bloodline matters in fulfilling Gods promise, but it is God, not the Earthly succession Who confirmed the line His promise would follow. God then began to fulfill these promises... the land through Moses on Sinai, the royal dynasty of David, and all people through Christ on the Cross. Seven covenants just like the seven days of creation.
In each successive covenant, God is growing his family... from the family of Abraham to the tribe of Jacob to the Nation under Moses to the Kingdom of David and then all nations under Christ. What was Christ doing on the Cross? He was the sacrificial offering of the New Covenant where man could be rejoined to Gods family. Just as the neighbor kids cant become part of my family on their ownI have to adopt themso we couldnt make ourselves part of Gods family. The New Covenant is a return to our participation in the family life of God! We are given many examples in the Old Testament of family covenants through marriages, adoptions and others. In each, there is a sacrificial offering and sign of the covenant.
Just as we dont delight in the accomplishments of the neighbor kids, so God did not delight in our vain offerings before our redemption. Now, through Christ, God does delight and reward our efforts. In so many places in the New Testament we find that God will reward us for our deeds. That is because Christ has merited for us the ability to merit from God.
Christ on the Cross was at once Priest offering a sacrifice, the sacrificial Lamb of the New Covenant, and the Bridegroom to His Church. Now, in order to be part of His Family, we are commanded to believe. However, believe is an action word. It doesnt mean that we have an intellectual understanding or a feeling... just as my kids believe that school is important for them but it doesnt do them any good until they actually go to school and participate. If we BELIEVE that Jesus is Christ, then we are to DO the Will of His Father... which begins our life in Gods Family through baptism in His Holy Name.
Christ on the Cross isnt the end from which there is no more to be done, it is the beginning from which all else is possible. It is more than paying the price for sinners, it is restoring lost family members to the Holy Family of God.
153
posted on
03/18/2015 6:39:55 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: G Larry
Did no such thing. You are reading into what was said.
154
posted on
03/18/2015 6:59:06 PM PDT
by
Gamecock
(Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval officer.)
Comment #155 Removed by Moderator
To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
[shaking the dust from my feet...]
156
posted on
03/18/2015 7:20:14 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: pgyanke
While you are at it you ought to take the plank out of your eye. You called Christians “condescending” yet you’ve posted many condescending comments on this thread.
Repent.
157
posted on
03/18/2015 7:21:26 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: D-fendr
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Straw argument:
>> “I'm only denying your authority (and or the authority of your tradition) to say what Holy Scripture means.” <<
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I claim no authority. There is no “authority” among men.
There are no “traditions” but the keeping of the words of Yehova.
Scripture says what it means when it is read.
Romans 10:
[11] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
[12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
[13] For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
[14] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
[15] And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
[16] But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
[17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
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Its a 'catholic' thing to do: cover your ears and sing "la, la, la, la, la when the word is read.
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158
posted on
03/18/2015 7:32:58 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
... youve posted many condescending comments on this thread.Example?
159
posted on
03/18/2015 7:35:40 PM PDT
by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: G Larry; RnMomof7
>
>> “There is no mechanism to prove your absurd statement.” <<
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Except the Yelping Dog!
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160
posted on
03/18/2015 7:36:00 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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