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1 posted on 03/13/2015 7:43:01 AM PDT by amessenger4god
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In a word, Yes.

In THE Word, Yes.


2 posted on 03/13/2015 7:45:11 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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Welcome to FR.


3 posted on 03/13/2015 7:48:04 AM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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I refuse to believe humans have God figured out.


4 posted on 03/13/2015 7:48:12 AM PDT by exnavy (Islam is not a religion, it is an attack plan for war.)
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In an answer, no. Christians will have to suffer for the Lord Jesus, just like Jesus did in His passion.


5 posted on 03/13/2015 7:50:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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There will be a rapture at the second coming of Christ. The perousia.


6 posted on 03/13/2015 7:51:54 AM PDT by circlecity
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the small, but growing minority of Christians who emphatically state that the rapture isn't even in the Bible...

Bandwagon fallacy. Just because a number of people believe it doesn't make it true. Moreover, the statement is not even true, unless Catholics and Orthodx Christians don't count- they do not believe the concept of a pre-tribulational rapture is in the Bible either.

The argument is that the pre-tribulational rapture theory was invented by a girl in 19th century Scotland named Margaret MacDonald. This is patently false. For starters, 18 years prior to MacDonald, a Catholic Jesuit priest espoused his belief in the pre-trib rapture in his book The Coming of Messiah in Glory and Majesty.

Strawman fallacy. This is not the argument at all. The argument is that this was never a doctrine of any Christian church before MacDonald; that is no group of Christians ever accepted this, incorporated this into their written beliefs, and believed it as divinely inspired. No sifnificant number of Christians believed this before Margaret MacDonald spread this false doctrine to John Darby who spread it to a number of seminaries, which led to the result of it spreading like wildfire as a wholly new doctrine that was eventually believed by a significant number of Christians, despite never being accepted as such in the two thousand year history of the church.

8 posted on 03/13/2015 7:59:05 AM PDT by LambSlave
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Welcome to FR.

I think...


14 posted on 03/13/2015 8:04:13 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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What I call “The Rapture” is in Revelation 7, after the 144k are sealed. But it could just be the “subject shift” that happens so often in Revelation.


17 posted on 03/13/2015 8:07:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Oh, and how can anyone who has read the Bible even think that God desires to remove us from experiencing trials and tribulations? Trials are the means of sanctification, of drawing us closer to him, of refining us, as is clearly indicated through the lives of almost every figure in the Bible— throughout the Old Testament (Noah, Moses, Job, Joseph, David...) and New (Jesus, apostles). Paul tells us this directly multiple times, but especially in Romans 5.


18 posted on 03/13/2015 8:08:59 AM PDT by LambSlave
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Rapture is an invention of the1800’s.

Nobody pretended to interpret that concept from Scripture prior to that time.


22 posted on 03/13/2015 8:14:15 AM PDT by G Larry (Our culture is caving to every whiney 3 year old in the room.)
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There are two periods of time in the Bible that relate to this subject.

1) The Tribulation (of the saints)

2) The Wrath of God (on those who refuse to believe God)

The catching away of the church and the return of Yeshua, will occur between those two periods of time.


23 posted on 03/13/2015 8:17:16 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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Welcome and how did you learn about FR?


25 posted on 03/13/2015 8:19:04 AM PDT by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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Rapture,,
it could happen.
I think making it a keystone in You’re belief system is a mistake.

Study .


31 posted on 03/13/2015 8:23:54 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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One of these days, yes.

Welcome to FR!

32 posted on 03/13/2015 8:26:06 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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If the Bible clearly taught this, you would not need to post this thread to convince anyone.


33 posted on 03/13/2015 8:26:16 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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amessenger4god

Since Mar 12, 2015


37 posted on 03/13/2015 8:30:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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No


38 posted on 03/13/2015 8:31:05 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Must re-read my booklet 88 REASONS WHY THE RAPTURE WILL BE IN 1988.


42 posted on 03/13/2015 8:37:50 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The tribulation happened in 70 AD - the”rapture” will be the in-gathering at the end of time. Jesus himself said “this generation will see it all” when asked when these things would happen - and so they did.


46 posted on 03/13/2015 8:43:19 AM PDT by impactplayer
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I found something interesting not long ago. The Southern Baptist Convention has never accepted or denied Scofield’s end times doctrines that have taken over so many churches.

The Independent Baptist church leader John R Rice never accepted those doctrines, but after his death, Curtis T Hutson did accept and teach them.

My thought is that too many people spend too much time trying to prove the first chapters of Genesis or analyzing the book of Revelation, when they should be concentrating on what is between those.


47 posted on 03/13/2015 8:44:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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