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SBC leader: Baptists, don't let your babies grow up to be Catholics
Bob Allen ^ | 3.6.2015 | Bob Allen

Posted on 03/08/2015 8:37:15 AM PDT by Gamecock

A recent Wall Street Journal story profiling twin brothers who followed separate spiritual paths — one to become an Anglican bishop, the other a Catholic priest — represents failure by the Southern Baptist church in which they were raised, according to Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President Albert Mohler.

Mohler, who posts a daily podcast commenting on current events on his personal website, said March 6 he has no firsthand knowledge of First Baptist Church in Elkin, N.C., home church of the men now in their 40s featured in a March 3 article headlined “When We Leave One Religion for Another: How two brothers, raised Baptist, found their way to two different faiths.” But the story of young seeking answers outside their evangelical upbringing is all too common.

“We are losing far too many evangelical young people as they reach older ages because they are simply not adequately grounded theologically in the Christian faith,” Mohler said. “They may go to vacation Bible school, and they may go to Sunday school, but the question is, are they really grounded in the Christian faith? Are they well-grounded in the beauty of Scripture? Are they well-grounded in a knowledge of the deep theological convictions that define us as Christians?”

According to the Wall Street Journal piece, 43-year-old Brad Jones, a Roman Catholic priest in the Diocese of Charlotte, N.C., and Bishop Chad Jones, rector at St. Barnabas Anglican Church in Dunwoody, Ga., grew up in the Baptist congregation where their parents remain faithful members. Both felt something was missing in the Baptist church, and they embarked on different paths to find it.

 Like many kids, the story says, in their early teen years the boys began questioning things, including the teachings of the Baptist church. Their interest piqued when an older cousin converted to Catholicism and took them to Our Lady of Grace Catholic Church in Greensboro, N.C., when they were about 12 or 13.

The article describes the scene:

“The beauty of the building itself — the vaulted ceilings, marble steps, intricate woodwork, statues and stained glass — the smells of burning incense and the sounds of bells had a mystical quality that is hard to explain, says Father Brad. What struck Bishop Chad was watching the priest standing in front of the altar and elevating the Communion host.

“For them, the Catholic liturgy made the invisible God palpable and tangible to the senses. Their own Baptist church, where the walls are white and flat, the altar austere, and the worship focused largely on Scripture alone, didn’t. ‘We weren’t theologians. We were children. But as children we had open hearts and minds to it and were very receptive,’ says Bishop Chad. He remembers painting a picture of Jesus during vacation Bible school, hanging it on his bedroom wall and wishing his church had pictures.”

Mohler said failure to ground children in Christian doctrine leaves them vulnerable “to be led by their senses” rather than “a theological understanding grounded in the explicit teachings of Scripture.”

“When these two boys, identical twins, were asking deep theological questions, who was there to help them?” Mohler asked. “Who was there to guide them? Who was there as an evangelical thinker, apologist, theologian, friend, pastor and guide to help them to understand these questions?”

Mohler said the article comes as “judgment upon all those who missed the opportunity and failed in the responsibility to ground these young boys as they were then in the Christian faith, in the truth and the beauty of evangelical Christian doctrine, in the theological principles that based upon long biblical consideration and the long argument of the church have meant the differences between the Roman Catholic Church and evangelical Christianity — the differences between the understanding of a Scripture-centered Christianity and one that is centered in the sacraments, as is the Roman Catholic system, and at least much of Anglicanism.”

Mohler said he knows of “no specific failing” by First Baptist Elkin, a congregation affiliated with the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship of North Carolina with characteristics described on the church website as “worship that is intentional and inclusive,” a “vision of becoming a loving and accepting community of faith” and “a heart for missions.”

“What I do know is this,” Mohler said. “This story appears as judgment and as challenge to every single one of us: as pastors, as parents, as youth leaders, as those who care about the perpetuation of the faith once delivered to the saints. If we do not ground our children in the faith, then they are going to find the answers to their questions elsewhere.”

Mohler contrasted the boys’ two spiritual paths.

“When you look at this news article, we come to understand that the shift of one of these twins to becoming an Anglican is quite a different shift than the one who became a Roman Catholic,” he said. “Becoming an Anglican doesn’t necessarily mean in any sense the denial of the very essentials of the gospel that would be at stake in terms of the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church — in terms of those Reformation principles that we believe to be at the very heart of the gospel: of justification by faith alone, by grace alone, by the work of Christ alone, knowable by the authority of Scripture alone, and ultimately to the glory of God alone.”

Mohler said occasionally a “well-taught” young person will at some point later in life depart from the faith, “but for those who are not well-taught, it’s not just a possibility, it’s a probability.”

“This is a huge question,” Mohler said. “It’s a haunting question. I raise this article simply because every single evangelical parent needs to take it as a serious challenge, because every single evangelical church has to understand this story is telling us in one sense what we’re up against.

“The story of these two identical twins can be replicated thousands and thousands of times over, and surely will be, if we fail now in the responsibility to raise up the next generation in the faith, to defend the faith once for all delivered to the saints.”


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To: Gamecock

Moehller is one to talk about being taught weak doctrine

he is one of the leaders of the Emergent Church errors


21 posted on 03/08/2015 10:07:33 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yet in Africa and Asia the Christian faith IS GROWING BIGTIME.


22 posted on 03/08/2015 10:10:39 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Gamecock

That title is misleading

The piece is about Southern a Baptists church inability to keep two in their flock


23 posted on 03/08/2015 10:11:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Gamecock

This is rather getting very old, very fast.


24 posted on 03/08/2015 10:12:56 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Dick Vomer

Your post is the perfect response to this type of story.

You describe the struggle of life brilliantly in your second paragraph. I resemble those remarks.


25 posted on 03/08/2015 10:14:04 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Lorianne

Good news, the Christian faith is growing in the southern part of the world now.


26 posted on 03/08/2015 10:14:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Lorianne

Islam is growing only because of birthrates.


27 posted on 03/08/2015 10:15:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Gamecock

Both the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church are BOTH scripture and sacraments based.


28 posted on 03/08/2015 10:17:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Lorianne

Not very smart of the SBC preacher, huh?

Would he rather have them Islam than Catholic?


29 posted on 03/08/2015 10:21:05 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Yet take confort, the Christian faith is growing BIGTIME in the global south nations.


30 posted on 03/08/2015 10:21:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Gamecock

Welcome Home!


31 posted on 03/08/2015 10:22:20 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Biggirl

**Both the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church are BOTH scripture and sacraments based.**

Ditto


32 posted on 03/08/2015 10:27:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

....And yes, in the RCC, if you as an adult desire to come into the Catholic Church, you will be asked for at least a year, to do both studying and taking classes called the RCIA. Right during Lent, there are special rituals that take place to prepare a non-Catholic for either baptism at Holy Saturday Eve before Easter, full reception into the Church, or to finish up the initation sacraments if Catholic.


33 posted on 03/08/2015 10:28:12 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Gamecock
SBC leader: Baptists, don't let your babies grow up to be Catholics

Because if they do, all that "eternal security" and "blessed assurance" goes up in (incense) smoke ... "poof"!

Remember, no sin can snatch you out of the Father's hand; if it could, that would mean you had earned your salvation, which you didn't, so it can't.

No sin, that is, except for the sin of becoming a Catholic.

34 posted on 03/08/2015 10:35:08 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Biggirl

However, I am concerned about Western Civilization not about Latin Civilization. You illustrate what is to me a flaw in Christian thinking; i.e. a cosmopolitan streak it will kill us.


35 posted on 03/08/2015 10:43:37 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Salvation

As a matter of fact, I have a Certificate of Completion from the diocean RCIA training process from last spring.


36 posted on 03/08/2015 10:44:32 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You have to admit that it will be from the global south Christian communities, be it from Africa, Asia, even Latin America, areas that at one time Western Civilization did send missionaries too that now in turn it will be the west that will be the one receving from those countries in the southern parts of the world to bring both Christ and the Gospel to.


37 posted on 03/08/2015 10:48:29 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Accept it as a gentle correcting.


38 posted on 03/08/2015 10:50:22 AM PDT by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Biggirl

I do. I am a Westerner born and bred and accept all that that implies both good and bad limited and unlimited.


39 posted on 03/08/2015 11:00:53 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Gamecock

Oh, I don’t know. It worked out pretty well for me. Very well indeed actually.


40 posted on 03/08/2015 11:17:21 AM PDT by GeorgiaGuy
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