Posted on 03/04/2015 9:35:19 AM PST by marshmallow
Recently, Cardinal Burke stated that, if Pope Francis were to endorse a position on marriage and sexuality that were contrary to the tradition of the Church, that he would be obliged to “resist” the pontiff. Although the cardinal clarified that he was speaking of a purely hypothetical situation, he hit upon a nerve that gets struck from time to time among Catholics—in instant messages, in passing, on Facebook, though almost never in print—“What if?” What if Cardinal Kasper’s ideology takes over the upcoming Ordinary Synod on Marriage and the Family? What if the behind-the-scenes machinations of his supporters ultimately win the day? What if the pope lets civilly divorced and remarried Catholics receive communion?
Fr. James Schall identified the dilemma last year, when he pointed out that the elephant in the room is the question of heresy. If Church discipline of excluding Catholics who have obtained a civil divorce and remarriage from Communion is based on infallible Church doctrine about sin and repentance, and if the pope tries to change that discipline, wouldn’t that make the pope a heretic concerning that doctrine?
In the finest tradition of Jesuit discourse, Fr. Schall insisted that we talk about the elephant rather than staring at it. I agree because I know that God is not going to let us down, and neither is Pope Francis.
What is a heretic?
In order to even talk about the elephant, we have to identify it. A “heretic” is someone guilty of a heresy. According to the Catechism, “heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.” A heretic differs from an “apostate,” who is guilty of “apostasy” (the total repudiation of the.....
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A Pope can be anything, even a Commie.
In the finest tradition of Jesuit discourse, Fr. Schall insisted that we talk about the elephant rather than staring at it. I agree because I know that God is not going to let us down, and neither is Pope Francis.
There are a great many FRoman Catholics who would say otherwise.
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>> “Can a Pope Be a Heretic?” <<
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Can a Pope Be anything else?
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Is the Pope Catholic?
If a pope goes contrary to the Bible, sure, but they have been skating close to the edge for eons.
Hypothetically a Pope could be the Anti-Christ. I don’t believe that is the case because I believe the Anti-Christ will be an Arab Muslim. But regardless he will be a political as well as a spiritual leader. It will be in the midst of a global crisis (no not global warming - a real crisis). He will be given great power (think governments and UN). All will be subject to his rule. Obama just doesn’t seem smart enough to be this Anti-Christ (even if he does head the UN later) but I could be wrong.
This one is, certainly.
Or a squishy avuncular fellow who rents out Vatican facilities to Porsche owners (as a charity event) and then calls money the “devil’s dung”? That pope?
Here’s an “interesting” Pope in the complex, intermingled line of the Renaissance period:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI
One of the infamous
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia
This can be a fun exercise for the reader: try to read all of both articles and keep track of all the detailed relationships.
For extra credit, follow the lines of family and influence through history from then until now and come up with one or two specific descendants in the 19th or 20th centuries.
Or, go back in history and trace the family roots.
Studying new world order is fun !
What’s the Protestant view on divorce?
It like asking if a president can be be unpatriotic....
is the pope a man without sin?..
as far as in know only Christ is without sin and qualified to be Savior
Mark 2:10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11 And he said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her, 12 and lif she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”
The Borja family (later spelled Borgia, as the Italians spelled it) was a very important family in Spain. They were from Gandia, a region south of Valencia on the Mediterranean coast. I visited the family home, now a museum, a few years ago.
They produced a saint, St. Francis Borgia, and it’s not even clear that Alexander VI was the villain depicted by his enemies (mostly the Italians, who hated the Spanish).
He was actually elected as a reform Pope because of his intelligence and decent life, and did excellent things for the Church during his tenure. However, he did bring family members to Rome, as did every Pope, and it was mainly the ones who married Italians and thus became involved in Italian politics who were the big problem.
No, I think most of us on FR are pretty upset with this current Pope.
I believe the anti-Christ is an Indonesian-raised Muslim currently living in the USA courtesy of a fraudulent Hawai'ian birth certificate.
I second what Gamecock posted.
depends on the denomination my grandmother was of a fundamentalist denomination absolutely against divorce... when she was “save” in the early 1920’s ..she was married to her 2nt husband at the time and had two children by him when she was “saved”..
She decided she was an adultery... left her second husband taking the children from her first and second marriage ..the children from the second she then considered illegitimate and said so
She then living as a single woman with 5 kids during the Depression in profound poverty ...caused a lot of friction in the family about Church in the family for years.
Yep.
But notice it doesn’t say the victim of the bill of divorce can not remarry.
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