Posted on 02/10/2015 6:00:32 AM PST by ConservativeInPA
1. Surah Al-Fatihah (The Opening)
1:1. In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
1:2. All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
1:3. The Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
1:4. The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)
1:5. You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).
1:6. Guide us to the Straight Way
1:7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).
Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
1. Alif-Lam-Mim. [These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings].
2:2. This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
2:3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and spend out of what we have provided for them [i.e. give Zakat , spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah's Cause - Jihad, etc.].
2:4. And who believe in (the Qur'an and the Sunnah) which has been sent down (revealed) to you (Muhammad Peace be upon him ) and in [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.] which were sent down before you and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter. (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell, etc.).
2:5. They are on (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are the successful.
2:6. Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.
2:7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.
2:8. And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.
2:9. They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!
2:10. In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.
2:11. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."
2:12. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.
2:13. And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not.
2:14. And when they meet those who believe, they say: "We believe," but when they are alone with their Shayatin (devils - polytheists, hypocrites, etc.), they say: "Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking."
2:15. Allah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doings to wander blindly.
Then eradicate it. There is absolutely no reason to study it. You give credence to its words by letting them bounce around in your head.
If I could rip this thread off the internet and burn it, I would. In a heartbeat.
A study of the Quran has no place on this site.
The worship of the Koran has no place on this site.
Understanding the Koran and our Islamic enemy does.
I do not think it will convert anyone on Free Republic to Islam. If anything it will give us knowledge of the pure evil of Islam. It is best that we know our enemy so that we can defeat him. It also aids in rebutting the "religion of peace" propaganda that is often taught in schools, referenced in the media, spewed by politicians or worse yet used as examples in so-called Christian churches. Those responding to the verses posted each day have an opportunity to compare the word of Muhammad to the word of Christ. One is the true light and it is self evident
The point of knowing more about the Quran, is so you can respond persuasively to relatives and associates who succumb to the "Islam is the Religion of Peace" propaganda.
We already know the pure evil of Islam. There is not one on this site that would say otherwise.
I stand by my statement. A study of the Quran has no place here imho.
I am studying both the history of the spread of Islam and the Koran to intelligently refute the "religion of peace" arguments. In the study of history it is a best practice to examine/study source documents. The Koran is one source. It is amazing what is being published in text books and in the media as truth and without context. Few blindly know the pure evil of Islam. There are many that blindly believe in religion of peace, without any knowledge of its teachings. If such a study of the Koran offends you, you have the freedom not to read the these posts.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
I have been to that site a number of times and its insight is valuable, but limited. The purpose of these postings is to examine the Koran in context. That will provide many opportunities to expand on the work that is on jihad watch.
There are three ways to approach this subject: positively, negatively, or neutral. Your antagonistic approach would be different from that of a Muslim. I intend to take a neutral, and I hope, objective approach.
If these very same words (Surah #1) had been spoken by Jesus, I sure that you would be praising them.
If, as some people claim, Muhammad plagiarized from the Bible, then at least the plagiarized parts may be agreable to you.
Just the other day, my college-educated daughter said "Jihad is just about inner struggle", and I was able to reply "No, I've read the Quran, jihad is about spreading Islam through the use of force", and then emailed her a link to the section of the Hadith where this is covered.
That was the end of that.
Without the ability to refute lies about Islam by pointing to the actual Quran and Hadith, you will not convince anybody who needs convincing.
I consider myself open minded enough to approach the subject from an objective point of view. My approach has multiple dimensions. If I sound antagonistic, it is because I am, but that is something I am trying to overcome. It does not prohibit me from being objective and evaluating the text from different directions. In the future, I will restrain my comments. In fact, I may not comment at all so not to dissuade others insights or to prejudice their contributions to these threads.
Please bear with me, as I have never done anything like this on FR. I am learning in this process. I appreciate your perspective, and it is a good check on some thoughts that I already have.
J. M. Rodwell, in his translation, attempted to arrange the Surahs in a more chronological order.
PapaBear3625 posted the link, Chronological Order of the Qur'an. I will be posting in what this link lists as traditional order. I am knowingly ignorant in these matters, but more than willing to learn. If you can shed light on this I would appreciate it.
Bully for you, sir. I’ve become the truth detector for the education my kids are getting lately.
Can’t believe the crap they are coming home with.
Even the languages themselves change. Think of the changes in English over the centuries since Shakespeare and even in the last century.
I recommend that you refer to at least two translations in order to get a more complete understanding.
I have acquired at least four translations over the last forty years.
Two translations that I have used are:
J. M. Rodwell (1861), chronological order of the Surahs
A. J. Arberry (1955), very poetic and easy to read.
Caveat: There may be other more recent translations that are even better.
So! They regard the Shia'as as heretics. So much for the concept of Islamic unity.
Thank you for your suggestions. I never meant for complete and accurate to be used in an absolute sense. Even the Scriptures themselves don’t have that (even if we omit the problem of multiple source texts). I mainly meant one that wasn’t purposefully sanitized for western consumprion.
Since I don’t have time to give this the treatment it ought to have, I would probably stick with one translation in order to undertake the study at all, as the Perfect is the enemy of the Good.
Are you confusing Sunni and Sunnah? Two different things.
The Sunnah (sayings of Mohammad) supplement the Quran. There are some disputes between Sunni and Shia about which collections of sayings of Mohammed are authoritative as representing what Mohammed actually said. See the link.
Islam rests upon three pillars: the Quran, the Hadith (sayings of Mohammed) and the Sirat (biography of Mohammed), with the last two being taken together as the Sunnah.
I do not have relatives who believe that. In fact, no one I know thinks that, or dares speak that. I acquainted myself with the appropriate verses of the Quran immediately after 9/11.
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