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FReeper University: REL 013: Comparative Studies of the Koran
The Koran | February 10, 2014

Posted on 02/10/2015 6:00:32 AM PST by ConservativeInPA

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I plan to post, in sequence, an English translation of the Koran. I will probably not be able to post every day, but it will be frequent. Each post will have approximately 15 to 25 verses. Today's posting is a bit long, since the Surah Al-Fatihah is fluff.

The purpose of posting the Koran is to obtain an understanding of Islam so that we better know thy enemy.

Feel free to compare and contrast to Holy Bible.

If you want to receive a ping, FReepMail me and will add you to the ping list.

1 posted on 02/10/2015 6:00:32 AM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

DEFINITELY put me on the ping list.

I have read passages but a sequential course of study sounds great!

I think we will all have to make sure we don’t read it immediately prior to and after meals.


2 posted on 02/10/2015 6:01:57 AM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Great idea! Is there a complete, accurate English translation you recommend?


3 posted on 02/10/2015 6:07:11 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Al Fatihah

1:6. Guide us to the Straight Way

1:7. The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace,not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews),nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).

John 14:6

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


4 posted on 02/10/2015 6:13:14 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: ConservativeInPA
With the Quran, it is important to note whether a surah was "revealed at Mecca" or "revealed at Medina". The "peace" verses are the early (Mecca) verses. The "sword" verses are the later (Medina) verses. The Quran is not laid out chronologically. It is laid out in order of the length of the verses, longest first.

Chronological Order of the Qur'an. Verse 1 is actually chronologically #5, and verse 9 (the biggest of the "sword" verses) is chronologically next to last.

5 posted on 02/10/2015 6:26:16 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Which translation are you using? Are the parentheticals part of the original text or added later?


6 posted on 02/10/2015 6:26:51 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Will all the posts be “REL 013”?


7 posted on 02/10/2015 6:30:44 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: ConservativeInPA

No thank you.


8 posted on 02/10/2015 6:32:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Also, Muslims regard the "Medina" (sword) verses as superseding the earlier Mecca verses.

Meanwhile, Islam apologists tend to quote exclusively from the (superseded) Meccan verses in order to promote the idea of Islam as a "religion of peace".

9 posted on 02/10/2015 6:35:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

They call that taqiyya. Everyone else calls it lying.


10 posted on 02/10/2015 6:37:30 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: ConservativeInPA

I would not call Surah #1 - Al Fatihah fluff. It is an introduction or a preamble. Would you call the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution fluff?


11 posted on 02/10/2015 6:38:01 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

If all the posts are “REL 013” that would make a nice keyword to conveniently tie them all together.


12 posted on 02/10/2015 6:39:35 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Ray76; ConservativeInPA

Perhaps the series title could have the format

FReeper University: REL 013: Comparative Studies of the Koran: [Surah # being covered]


13 posted on 02/10/2015 6:52:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Thank you. I know all I need to know of my enemy. He desires to kill and destroy. I stand with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


14 posted on 02/10/2015 6:54:59 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: Salvation

When you open your mind to the devil’s words. You become vulnerable. This garbage has no right here. It is not important to read this. We know them by their fruit. We do not need this trash posted. I’m kind of offended that you’re posting this GARBAGE. We don’t need it, nor want to hear it. You can say all you want it’s to know the enemy, however, there are weak, malleable minds everywhere.


15 posted on 02/10/2015 6:57:35 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Great idea! Is there a complete, accurate English translation you recommend?

I am posting from The Noble Quran Published by Dar-us-Salam Publications. It is an online version available at the http://www.noblequran.com

I can not advocate an accurate English translation, although there are many translations available on the web. It may be interesting to compare translations.

16 posted on 02/10/2015 6:58:16 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: Ray76

I will post using REL 013. I am pretty sure that if you search on FR for “REL 013” that the posts will display in chronological order.


17 posted on 02/10/2015 7:00:12 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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I would not call Surah #1 - Al Fatihah fluff. It is an introduction or a preamble. Would you call the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution fluff?

I would not call the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution fluff as it was written by wise men; our Founding Fathers. I would call Surah #1 and praising a false God fluff. That is my personal opinion. I believe that Islam is a death cult and not a religion. It is the word of Muhammad, not God, and there is nothing divine about it. My opinion on Muhammad is that he was nothing more than a liar, terrorist and pedophile. Muhammad was not a prophet of Our Lord, but the prophet of Satan.

18 posted on 02/10/2015 7:09:32 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: PapaBear3625

I will be posting the “traditional order’ of the Koran in sequence. Thanks for noting that it is not the chronological order.


19 posted on 02/10/2015 7:13:24 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: FreedomStar3028

It serves to discredit the lying promoters.

Much recruitment occurs in prisons. Perhaps this info can be used to prohibit it there since it is a message of violence. It’s message and true nature must be exposed so that it can be eradicated. That’s right, eradicate. This poison doctrine is incompatible with humanity.


20 posted on 02/10/2015 7:17:20 AM PST by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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