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Is There A Future For Ecumenism?
The Russian Orthodox Church-Department for External Church Relations ^ | 2/8/15 | Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk

Posted on 02/09/2015 6:18:36 AM PST by marshmallow

Lecture by the Chairman of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk at the Universities of Winchester (5 February 2015) and Cambridge (6 February 2015).

Dear members of the faculty, students and guests of the university!

I have been asked to give a lecture on the topic of interaction between Christians today. Does ecumenism have a future? This question has become ever more relevant and demands an all-round analysis.

When Jesus Christ founded his Church on earth, it was a single community of disciples bound together by faith in him as God and Saviour. At the Last Supper Jesus prayed to his Father that his disciples may preserve unity in the fashion of the unity that exists between the Father and the Son: ‘That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me’ (Jn. 17: 21). He then gave to his disciples his body and blood in the form of bread and wine and commanded them: ‘Do this in remembrance of me” (Lk. 22: 1). After his death and resurrection it was the Eucharist – the re-enactment of the Last Supper with the prayer that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ – that became the most important unifying element of the Christian community.

From the time the first generation of Christians had appeared the community had begun to grow rapidly. The apostles’ preaching to the Jews was no less successful than that of Christ’s. Yet it was among the pagans that Christianity began to gain great popularity very quickly. St. Paul played an essential role in the expansion of the Church’s mission. It was he......

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1 posted on 02/09/2015 6:18:37 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Ask Tony Palmer


2 posted on 02/09/2015 6:28:21 AM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: marshmallow
The Russian Orthodox Church-Department for External Church Relations ^ | 2/8/15 | Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk
In the East there is someone that causes the western liberal's maniacal laughter to stop. Vladimir Putin. He has real world power, which causes the liberal media to fearfully ignore or warp his image. Like a good Christian King he leads a nation to Christ. Deep down in their evil souls they shriek like devils because they know Christ is true God and true power that they cannot defeat. They thought the Bolshevik revolution destroyed Holy Mother Russia. Christ cannot be defeated and his servant Putin has welcomed Christ and His church.
-- from the thread US threatened by Russia's Christianity

3 posted on 02/09/2015 6:46:12 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow

Certainly...when Rome abandons her heretical traditions and doctrines of demons and listens to the real Gospel of Jesus Christ, they will be welcomed with open arms.


4 posted on 02/09/2015 7:19:36 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: marshmallow

Sure there is!

It’s called “the one world religion” under the one world government. And it’s coming.


5 posted on 02/09/2015 7:21:13 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB; marshmallow

“One world religion” that is coming is Islam under the new Caliphate. And Christians will be taken as lambs to the slaughter by ISIS and NoKo Baram.


6 posted on 02/09/2015 7:29:51 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Right now, the world works and worships under a roman calendar named after a pope..

And people think Islam is the biblical threat when Daniel and revelation tells us what they enemy does.
Think to change times and laws...

Rome.. bingo on both..

But if muhamads calendar becomes the world authority as the pope Gregory calendar is in these last days, us who see Rome as the enemy will admit we oops missed it..


7 posted on 02/09/2015 8:17:35 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante
They might not be mutually exclusive.
Imagine, if you will, the merging of Catholicism and Islam.

The following is from the Catholic Church's Catchesm:

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

8 posted on 02/09/2015 8:25:28 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: delchiante

The Gregorian Calendar means that the Roman Catholic Church rules the world? If that is your belief, it is your belief.


9 posted on 02/09/2015 8:36:56 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: MrB

+ One million!

The foundations have been in place for decades, if not longer. Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Oprah, The Crouches and the Pope, Deepak Chopra all have a hand to play in it also.


10 posted on 02/09/2015 8:50:54 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: OneWingedShark

Interesting “take” on that salvation plan.

Chrislam....


11 posted on 02/09/2015 8:56:15 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: OneWingedShark
the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham

Of course they do. And like everything else they tell us infidels, it's a total lie.

12 posted on 02/09/2015 8:59:52 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Dutchboy88

and only then


13 posted on 02/09/2015 9:00:22 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: OneWingedShark
The following is from the Catholic Church's Catchesm:
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

Indeed they both worship a false god

14 posted on 02/09/2015 9:02:02 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: OneWingedShark

Muslims have prayers on Friday. Friday is named after some false goddess named Friya (spelling)

Jews have a Pope approved sabbath on Saturn’s day.. named after the creation but also a false god..

Christians have a pope approved Sabbath on the Sun’s Day. Named after the creation but also a false god..

It wasn’t until I studied the calendar our Creator put up there in His sky , found in scripture, did I see the times have changed.. (and tested the Gregorian to see what I really was following)

Today is the moon’s day according to Rome.
on our Heavenly Father’s Kingdom calendar, it is His 4th day..

And when His 7th Day arrives, the world will be working when He says to rest and worship..

And the major religions, countries (united nations) and businesses (economies) all are in tune with Rome’s cycle..

A cycle of seven that is counterfeit..
A cycle that hides His New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts..

Appointed times He gave His people to come together and worship..

That is more devious when one studies the Savior’s major life events all fell on New moons, Sabbaths or Feasts..

And Rome has just substituted real appointed holy days for unholy roman substitutes.
And they can do that and get away with it because the world uses their calendar.. not implemented by the edge of the sword in places like america, but willing conformity for unity..

All on Rome’s page..

It isn’t a study for people locked into monday-friday, Saturday/Sunday..

I was conformed to that cycle until He led me out. I never felt like a slave but now know I was..

And Islam wasnt the threat.. it was a familiar friend who I didn’t see as a threat that had me enslaved to the world’s conformity..
And they are just a vessel for the real enemy who wants to be worshipped and steal worship..

Best way to do that is to mess with the calendar..

But again, today is His 4th day to me.. strange certainly in the day and age..
Tough to follow without His amazing Grace.. impossibe to see without Him opening our eyes..

And unpopular in world circles, even bible believing circles..


15 posted on 02/09/2015 9:07:38 AM PST by delchiante
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To: GreyFriar

See post 15..


16 posted on 02/09/2015 9:15:10 AM PST by delchiante
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To: tbpiper

>> the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham
>
> Of course they do. And like everything else they tell us infidels, it’s a total lie.

This is the Catholic Church’s claim though.


17 posted on 02/09/2015 9:19:00 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Yeah, that won’t work.


18 posted on 02/09/2015 9:19:30 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: delchiante; OneWingedShark
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I fear for you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Take your weak and beggarly elements and keep them in whatever cult they belong in. They don't belong in the new covenant.

19 posted on 02/09/2015 9:22:20 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Be not conformed to the world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind..

Rome has conformed the world to their 7 day cycle..

Just admit that that is one thing you don’t hate about Rome..

And I don’t think anyone should be sacrificing those drink and meat offerings that Paul was referencing in Ezekiel 45 for Colossians 2.

Those have been nailed...

Somebody better ask Isaiah why new moons and Sabbaths are around like He quotes in Isaiah 66..

And why the messiah said for them to pray their flight wouldn’t happen on a sabbath..

Unless somebody believes the sabbath is made for the Jewish man only and not all man..


20 posted on 02/09/2015 9:37:47 AM PST by delchiante
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