Posted on 02/03/2015 7:14:02 AM PST by marshmallow
2,579 Catholic priests, seminarians, and religious were deported from across Europe to the Dachau concentration camp, according to a newly published French book.
1,034 of them, 868 of whom were Polish, died there.
According to Guillaume Zellers La Baraque des prêtres, Dachau, 1938-1945, the priests included German priests who spoke out against euthanasia, Polish priests who were considered part of Polands elite, French priests who resisted the Nazis, and a French bishop who aided the Jews.
The Dachau camp remains the largest cemetery of Catholic priests in the world, said Zeller in an interview with Le Figaro. They maintained their humanity throughout their imprisonment as they celebrated the sacraments, aided the sick, and carried on clandestine ordinations and theological training.
141 Orthodox and Protestant clergymen were also imprisoned at Dachau.
I’m not the one who “dragged” the conversation anywhere.
Sure you did, by posting those links to the fringe Serb fascist group in an attempt to draw attention away from the Croatian Catholics celebrating the Ustashi.
Let us all know when you have any evidence of the Serbian Orthodox celebrating the Serb fascists, m’kay?
“Let us all know when you have any evidence of the Serbian Orthodox celebrating the Serb fascists, mkay?”
M’kay. Let’s start with Serbians Orthodox clergy supporting the Nazis - the REAL Nazis:
The Serbian Orthodox Church openly collaborated with the Nazis, and many priests publicly defended the persecution of the Jews. On 13 August 1941, approximately 500 distinguished Serbs signed An Appeal to the Serbian Nation, which called for loyalty to the occupying Nazis. The first three signers were bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On 30 January 1942, Metropolitan Josif, the acting head of the Holy Synod of the Serbian Orthodox Church, officially prohibited conversions of Jews to Serbian Orthodoxy, thereby blocking a means of saving Jewish lives. At a public rally, after the government minister Olcan thanked God that the enormously powerful fist of Germany had not come down upon the head of the Serbian nation but instead upon the heads of the Jews in our midst, the speaker of these words was then blessed by a high-ranking Serbian Orthodox priest.
A most striking example of Serbian antisemitism combined with historical revisionism is the case of Bishop Nikolaj Velimirovic (1880-1956), revered as one of the most influential church leaders and ideologists after Saint Sava, founder of the Serbian Orthodox Church. To Serbs, Bishop Velimirovic was a martyr who survived torture in the Dachau prison camp. In truth he was brought to Dachau (as were other prominent European clergy), because the Nazis believed he could be useful for propaganda. There he spent approximately two months as an Ehrenhaftling (honour prisoner) in a special section, dining on the same food as the German officers, living in private quarters, and making excursions into town under German escort. From Dachau, this venerated priest endorsed the Holocaust:
Europe is presently the main battlefield of the Jew and his father, the devil, against the heavenly Father and his only begotten Son (Jews) first need to become legally equal with Christians in order to repress Christianity next, turn Christians into atheist, and step on their necks. All the modern European slogans have been made up by Jews, the crucifiers of Christ: democracy, strikes, socialism atheism, tolerance of all religions, pacifism, universal revolution, capitalism and communism All this has been done with the intention to eliminate Christ You should think about this, my Serbian brethren, and correspondingly correct your thoughts, desires and acts. (Bishop Nikolaj Velimirovic: Addresses to the Serbian PeopleThrough the Prison Window. Himmelsthur, Germany: Serbian Orthodox Eparchy for Western Europe, 1985, pp. 161-162). http://www.bosniak.org/serbian-nazi-past-and-genocide-against-jews-in-the-holocaust/
And Serbian Orthodox supporting modern Serbian fascists? Here you go: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/seselj-honour-from-serbian-orthodox-church-sparks-anger
And certainly there are leftists people out there who see Serbian Orthodox as being in cahoots with neo-fascists:
Two of the youth groups most closely linked to the Serbian Orthodox Church are Obraz (Honour) and Krv i cast(Blood and Honour). Founded in 2001, Obraz is an anti-communist, anti-globalization and clero-fascist youth organization. http://www.wluml.org/sites/wluml.org/files/Challenging%20the%20Growing%20Power%20of%20the%20Serbian%20Orthodox%20Church%20in%20Public%20Life_The%20Case%20of%20Women%20in%20Black-Serbia.pdf
At least in America the Orthodox are more likely to get it right: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/church-to-orthodox-fascists-repent/
Now, in closing, I’d like to say two things:
1) You have lost every debate you have ever had with me - just like this one.
2) It’s Lent. I’m not going to post much. I’m going to ignore whatever you post in response to this. Feel free to apologize for being wrong (”Let us all know when you have any evidence of the Serbian Orthodox celebrating the Serb fascists, mkay?”). Have a great Great Lent, FormerLib.
Yes, I meant modern day, when it was all voluntary. But you still insist on losing every debate we’ve ever had. Sucks to be you.
“Yes, I meant modern day, when it was all voluntary.”
Then you were still wrong.
And Serbian Orthodox supporting modern Serbian fascists? Here you go: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/seselj-honour-from-serbian-orthodox-church-sparks-anger
And certainly there are leftists people out there who see Serbian Orthodox as being in cahoots with neo-fascists:
Two of the youth groups most closely linked to the Serbian Orthodox Church are Obraz (Honour) and Krv i cast(Blood and Honour). Founded in 2001, Obraz is an anti-communist, anti-globalization and clero-fascist youth organization. http://www.wluml.org/sites/wluml.org/files/Challenging%20the%20Growing%20Power%20of%20the%20Serbian%20Orthodox%20Church%20in%20Public%20Life_The%20Case%20of%20Women%20in%20Black-Serbia.pdf
Oh look, another lie posted by Vladimir. It must be a day that ends in 'Y'.
No, I don't care what some George Soros propaganda rag has put out. Good luck finding a single Serbian Orthodox Church linking to those groups you mentioned.
Yes, another Epic Fail on your part.
And keep up that Lenten celebration of Bearing False Witness, chumley.
“Oh look, another lie posted by Vladimir. It must be a day that ends in ‘Y’.”
I have never once posted a lie, but, I have sometimes forgotten things and that is all the more likely when someone takes days and days to respond to a post (all the more likely if he knows he already lost the debate).
And Serbian Orthodox supporting modern Serbian fascists? Here you go: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/seselj-honour-from-serbian-orthodox-church-sparks-anger
And certainly there are leftists people out there who see Serbian Orthodox as being in cahoots with neo-fascists:
Two of the youth groups most closely linked to the Serbian Orthodox Church are Obraz (Honour) and Krv i cast(Blood and Honour). Founded in 2001, Obraz is an anti-communist, anti-globalization and clero-fascist youth organization. http://www.wluml.org/sites/wluml.org/files/Challenging%20the%20Growing%20Power%20of%20the%20Serbian%20Orthodox%20Church%20in%20Public%20Life_The%20Case%20of%20Women%20in%20Black-Serbia.pdf
The Serbs and their church have a long history of supporting fascists, communists, Greater Serbia wackjobs, and other fringe loonies. It’s just that simple.
https://mospat.ru/en/2014/11/16/news111635/
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