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An interesting review.
1 posted on 01/29/2015 7:46:27 AM PST by Salvation
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Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 01/29/2015 7:47:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I remember!


3 posted on 01/29/2015 7:51:03 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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. . . the liturgists were at it again, ending with all sorts of additional changes.

"A liturgist is a affliction sent by God so that, in times of no overt persecution, a Catholic need not be denied the privilege of suffering for the Faith."

4 posted on 01/29/2015 8:00:00 AM PST by maryz
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Thank you. Good article.

I simply have no recollection of there ever being singing at Mass until the 70s when the guitars came out. No singing ever of responses. That came in the 70s, too. We simply spoke the words. And we didn’t have a choir either. In the 70s, they started introducing Protestant songs! Pretty, yes, but wrongheaded.


5 posted on 01/29/2015 8:00:04 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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I remember the 1965 mass, too. It was fine, in my opinion; I missed the Last Gospel, but otherwise, most of the changes weren’t enormous, except that much of it was now in English and one could hear the beautiful prayers. But a lot was kept in Latin, too, although most of that also was audible. Priests had actually been trained in Latin in those days, so many of them could say the prayers nicely and intelligibly in Latin. I thought it was an improvement to be able to hear it and understand it (since the low mass prior to that time was often done in nearly complete silence and you had to figure out where the priest was and read along in your missal).

If they’d kept the 1965 Missal, we would never have had some of the horrors that have been inflicted on us since then.


6 posted on 01/29/2015 8:00:33 AM PST by livius
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Sadly it would seem many American priests in the 1960s had their own ideas and filled the mass with thumping guitars, hootenanny hymns and blue jeans instead of vestments. I was pleasantly surprised when I was in France in the early 1970s that the mass was still largely in Latin, the hymns sung in French were dignified and not a guitar was in sight. However at the Abbey of Solesmes, a Benedictine monastery near Sable, France, I experienced the Gregorian chant in all its glory.


7 posted on 01/29/2015 8:01:58 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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The 1965 missal was VASTLY superior to the 1970.


11 posted on 01/29/2015 9:02:51 AM PST by vladimir998
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beginning with a false premise - that changes were well under way - when truth is there was ONE change under Pope Pius XII and that was a revision to the liturgy of Holy Week.

then, leaping to another false premise - that it was the 1970 missal that was to blame for all the abuses. By 1970, the traditional Latin form had been outlawed by most bishops.

finally, the inevitable conclusion - that was not the issue to fight on. It is the next one where will stand our ground. Sound familiar?


14 posted on 01/29/2015 9:28:16 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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the liturgists were at it again, ending with all sorts of additional changes.

What's the difference between a liturgist and a terrorist? You can negotiate with a terrorist.

19 posted on 01/29/2015 10:38:12 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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The picture was taken at the moment the two acolytes prayed at the end of the Confiteor “...at te Pater ad Dominum Deum Nostrum.”

I can still dream all the Latin prayers expected to be recited by an acolyte.

The “old” Mass was the most impressive event to me while I was a young “altar boy” and as a graduate student in Chemical Engineering.

Miss it awfully.


23 posted on 01/29/2015 11:53:14 AM PST by 353FMG
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Hence we do well to distinguish our concerns about the current form of the Mass. It is a poor stance to oppose an entire Ecumenical Council.

By its fruits you shall know it.

25 posted on 01/29/2015 12:16:54 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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I also have a 1965 missal. Ping!


29 posted on 01/29/2015 1:02:50 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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...Destroy not my soul with the wicked, O God, nor my life with men of blood, in whose hands are iniquities...their right hand is filled with gifts..


35 posted on 01/29/2015 4:42:19 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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An interesting review. >>

It sure is, can you add me to the ping list please?


48 posted on 04/27/2015 4:30:46 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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