Disinterest likely... as better to have the truth be revealed then get wrapped up in catholicisms maize of teachings...
Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
Personally I have no problem with saying “Roman Catholic” (with the Roman included) any more than saying “Presbyterian” or “Methodist.” I might even say “Catholic” for short.
That is the standard way to express the name of a denomination.
If I really DO mean the universal church of all believers, then I might say lower-case “catholic.” This is found through most denominations.
I find that hate-based typography is not gainful. It creates an extra layer of stuff to hack through in discussions.
Sadly, but not surprisingly the thread has morphed into the same old same old. And, we cannot seem to get any discussion on the points raised in the OP.
Wonder why that is.
However I do understand that of late Rome may very well attempt to make it official in their doctrine that she is definately, for them, co-equal with Jesus Christ and God.
Next she will be proclaimed the Mother of all Mother Goddesses, which every religion has a female figure...and this will unite the faiths with one common 'entity' thus achieving commonality among the faiths....ie: "one world religion".
Little kids have GENDER.
They don't USE it yet, but they've GOT it!
Therefore; logically...
Matthew 18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Disinterest likely... as better to have the truth be revealed then get wrapped up in catholicisms maize of teachings...
That notation, at best, is begging to be misunderstood. We have become Christ... well no, obviously not. We’re man, he’s God. You need a catechism to explain the catechism!
I could see “the ambassadors of Christ in the image of Christ.” Or something similar. That would be both biblical and accurate. But the formulation given frankly smells of the theological groping of the early centuries which came up with a lot of things that were ALMOST correct.
Actually they do use it but not to the extent they do when adults. Why do the little boys usually end up gravitating to the toy trucks, and the girls to the dolls? It isn’t mere genitals here.
Do you promulgate the heresies of the Muslim faith?
“Salvation Includes the Muslims
841 The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”
.....” rely DIRECTLY upon Him. You don’t have to cringe and ask the “Queen.” Ask the King!”....
Might be they fear the King?.. Going to a female is easier, especially the one they present as mary who is always benevolent and never judges their sin. The idea that God is merciful but also just doesn’t equate very well for some.
But there cannot be mercy without justice.
Maize? That sounds corny to me.
I can understand believing a lot of this stuff. I can also understand how doing it gives the Lord short shrift. Given that, we shouldn’t be egotistical or proud. “But for the grace of God there go we.” The Reformation would have failed if it was not powered by the grace of God.
Perhaps not yet a full confidence in the work of the Cross.
I showed scripture that shows they can only be in one place at a time. If you disagree show the passages that indicate they can be in multiple places.
I’ve been told many things in my life. Notice my name.
[Perhaps not yet a full confidence in the work of the Cross.]
And this shows in the Roman Catholic approach to the biblical teaching about mortal sins, or sins unto death, for which the biblical writer does not advise prayer.
In this approach, the Cross doesn’t QUITE cover all, you can bounce into hell and back (bouncing back chiefly by means of the Eucharist).
It may take a while to come to the realization that God will give you some rope, but never enough to eternally hang you, once you have believed. But once you have... hallelujah.
Well that might be a bit cynical, Bear. There’s a difference between being skeptical and cynical....
Claiming the faith of Abraham is what they might profess, when in fact that is a lie, it is the heritage of lineage they're referencing. Further the God they serve and the God of the Bible are not the same. Ask a 'devoted and faithful Muslim', who has fully accepted the Gospel message..with understanding of that message regarding Jesus Christ.....and he will proclaim without hesitation..."They told me Allah was the Almighty God...He isn't".
Yes, Salvation is open to Muslims...but you must be especially careful with terminology and understanding exactly what muslims mean, which is more times then not quite different then most assume when engaged about the things of the Christian God...the God of the Bible.
BTW...It's a long 'process' when working with Muslims....they will tell you that even after they might have accpeted Jesus Christ....as some have expressed...I said it but i still don't know what ti means. That's because in order to convert to Islam is simply a one liner sentence....so they think it's the same with Jesus.
In what post did you cite such Scripture?
Salvation is open to anyone who puts his/her trust in Jesus to deliver it. The only unforgivable sin is to never do that.
I, too, am not of any denomination, although I do want to study the letters to the churches in depth. Right now I am focusing on the last day. The great falling away of the faithful has its source in the lies. For protestants the lie of the pre-trib rapture will be devastating.
That might be a question mal posee. One could fall short of omnipresence and still have some kind of metaphysical capability of spanning distinct locales. Just like if I am in the right position I can stand in both Kentucky and Tennessee. If you mean to talk about omnipresence, it would be helpful if you did so in those terms.
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