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To: knarf

I wish the Pope would allow us to go back to the Mass I grew up with. I can’t stand the new version. I went through 13 years of Catholic School and memorized every word of the Mass and went to Mass every week for 40 years and that horrible Pope Benedict had to screw it up. No wonder people are leaving the church.......what made him change the entire Mass????????? Even yesterday I was mumbling how dumb a move it was as I say every Sunday. Pope Benedict was the worst Pope we have ever had....and quit his post to boot.


6 posted on 01/05/2015 10:34:12 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Walker is our future President! Ted Cruz is the Senate Majority Leader in the future!)
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To: napscoordinator

There is quite a bit of justification for getting out of the Novus Ordo and finding a Traditional chapel that is obedient to the true doctrine of the one holy Catholic apostolic church. God does not want you living under the thumb of heretics.

In fact the pope (Pius V) forbade that anyone should ever change the Mass, so how can John XIII or Paul VI or JPII or BXVI defy this among other doctrines such as eucumenism and changing the words of consecration to invalidate the sacrament and protestantize it?! Catholic doctrine does not change. Jesus Christ is the same today tomorrow and forever.

Be relieved to know that assuredly Pope Pius V allows you to go back to the Mass you grew up with. Locate a good traditional independant Catholic chapel and seek God’s will there. Some are more perfect than others, but what you find will likely be far more safe than the Novus Ordo heresy.

See Tradition in Action website for more.


11 posted on 01/05/2015 10:59:24 AM PST by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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To: napscoordinator

I am with you. The rewrite of the Roman Missal from a couple of years ago is horrible! Filled with incomprehensible, archaic, obsolete words like “consubstantial”. Actual participation at Mass has dropped tremendously as they scrapped prayers people knew by heart for decades, and the congregants are no longer confident that they are speaking the right words. Our biggest challenge is keeping the young engaged, which they sure as heck won’t be if we speak to them in undecipherable language.

The one that gets me is the last piece of the Eucharistic Prayer. “I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.” Not even biblical. In Matthew 8:8 the centurion was clearly asking fro a physical healing. In changing this the Church is trying to deny they take place. We must not monkey with the text of Scripture.


15 posted on 01/05/2015 11:36:44 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: napscoordinator; Repent and Believe

Although I agree with your sentiment, I’m not sure why you’re blaming the changes on Benedict. That was all John XXIII’s and Paul VI’s doing. John XXIII paved the way and Paul VI executed it. And the changes he made to the Mass were just the tip of the iceberg.


21 posted on 01/05/2015 1:23:13 PM PST by piusv
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To: napscoordinator

“I wish the Pope would allow us to go back to the Mass I grew up with.”

Already happened. I go to the Latin Mass (1962). You might not live near where one is offered.


35 posted on 01/05/2015 5:14:50 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: napscoordinator

“I went through 13 years of Catholic School and memorized every word of the Mass and went to Mass every week for 40 years and that horrible Pope Benedict had to screw it up.”

Actually the CORRECT TRANSLATION was ordered by Pope JHohn Paul II - years before Benedict became pope.

“No wonder people are leaving the church.......”

You mean no one left before November 2012? Really?

“what made him change the entire Mass?????????”

He loves the Mass enough to want it to be correctly translated.

“Even yesterday I was mumbling how dumb a move it was as I say every Sunday.”

Murmuring, mumbling, grumbling. None of that is going to change anything.

“Pope Benedict was the worst Pope we have ever had....and quit his post to boot.”

Worst pope we ever had??? Man, do you ever need to read a history book or two.


37 posted on 01/05/2015 5:20:26 PM PST by vladimir998
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