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To: aMorePerfectUnion
She was chosen by God to bear Messiah

Precisely. That means she is the God-giver or if you prefer God-bearer. No one is making her a "demi-god", by the way.

867 posted on 12/15/2014 8:49:43 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

“Precisely. That means she is the God-giver or if you prefer God-bearer. No one is making her a “demi-god”, by the way.”

Mary did not give Messiah. God gave Messiah. Mary bore Messiah.

She is certainly fashioned as a demigod by Catholicism. It is sad.


871 posted on 12/15/2014 9:11:08 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: annalex; metmom; boatbums; daniel1212; CynicalBear

>>Precisely. That means she is the God-giver or if you prefer God-bearer. No one is making her a “demi-god”, by the way.<<

I’d be careful with the “God-giver” connotation. Blessed Mary was clearly called “mother of Jesus” in the NT. That is why many Protestants and Evangelicals stop right there and especially why most Messianic Jews stop right there. For God’s Law specifically says “that ye turn not aside therefrom to the right hand or to the left;”. The subject of the quote came from Joshua 23:6 where YHWH tells him not to stray from His direct commands. The early Jewish Christians knew this and inspired by the Holy Spirit gave us what we know of Mary. We are to assume no more no less.

I know some Roman Catholics see Protestants and Evangelicals as being disrespectful of Blessed Mary mother of Jesus. But we are not. We do respect and look to Mary as an example of faith a Christian should emulate as there are other numerous examples of godly lives to examine. But we do so from the revealed Word of God.

An example of straying to the left or right is when Israel, after witnessing wonderous miracles and deliverance from God, decided Moses was dead as he entered the presence of God on Sinai. Not long after they crafted a golden idol. They thought they were honoring God as they thought Moses was dead. Even high priest Aaron joined in.

God said He is a jealous God. He is to receive all the adoration, prayers, worship and glory. Sinai is evidence of such.

Back to “God-giver.” I think even a casual look at the early church fathers puts a hold on this title. For if you examine their writings on the Logos begotten not made I think puts this title of giver of God as not an orthodox belief. Even for the post apostolic age.


877 posted on 12/15/2014 9:52:35 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: annalex
No one is making her a "demi-god", by the way.

Sigh...


Morning Consecration to Mary

My Queen, My Mother, I offer
myself entirely to thee.

And to show my devotion to thee,
I offer thee this day, my eyes,
my ears, my mouth, my heart,
my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession.

Amen.

988 posted on 12/16/2014 6:39:39 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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