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Burke: “There is a strong sense that the Church is like a ship without a helm” (Catholic Caucus)
Vatican Insider ^ | 10/31/2014 | ANDREA TORNIELLI

Posted on 10/31/2014 1:32:24 PM PDT by DarkSavant

After his criticisms about the Synod being manipulated and censored, the Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura, Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, is continuing to raise concerns – in an increasingly distressed tone – about the direction the Church is taking, criticising the Pope, whilst at the same time claiming he does not wish it seem like he is speaking out against he Pope.” His latest interview with Darío Menor Torres was published by Spanish religious news weekly Vida Nueva.

“Many have expressed their concerns to me. At this very critical moment, there is a strong sense that the Church is like a ship without a helm, whatever the reason for this may be; now, it is more important than ever to examine our faith, have a healthy spiritual leader and give powerful witness to the faith.”

“I fully respect the Petrine ministry and I do not wish it to seem like I am speaking out against the Pope. I would like to be a master of the faith, with all my weaknesses, telling a truth that many currently perceive. They are feeling a bit sea sick because they feel the Church’s ship has lost its bearings. We need to set aside the reason for this disorientation because we have not lost our bearings. We have the enduring tradition of the Church, its teachings, the liturgy, its morality. The catechism remains the same.”

“The Pope rightly speaks of the need to go out to the peripheries,” the Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura said. “The people have responded very warmly to this. But we cannot go to the peripheries empty-handed. We go with the Word of God, with the Sacraments, with the virtuous life of the Holy Spirit. I am not saying the Pope does this, but there is a risk of the encounter with culture being misinterpreted. Faith cannot adapt to culture but , must call to it to convert. We are a counter-cultural movement, not a popular one.”


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1 posted on 10/31/2014 1:32:24 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant

Not a Catholic, here, but still looking to the Pope and his “staff” to provide direction in accordance with the Bible and not accommodations for the progressive agenda, like other so-called religions. Waiting.....


2 posted on 10/31/2014 1:36:01 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: SgtHooper
Not a Catholic, here,

Then, with all due respect, please don't post in a Caucus thread. Nothing against you personally. I just want to avoid the pointless protestant/Catholic mudslinging that goes on.
3 posted on 10/31/2014 1:39:03 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: SgtHooper
Not a Catholic, here, but still looking to the Pope and his “staff” to provide direction in accordance with the Bible and not accommodations for the progressive agenda, like other so-called religions. Waiting.....

LOL, no, you're not a Catholic. And you don't like the Pope. Other than that, your question is innocent enough.

4 posted on 10/31/2014 1:40:41 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DarkSavant
I'm a Catholic and I share Cardinal Burke's concerns.
5 posted on 10/31/2014 1:47:27 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SgtHooper

One doesn’t post on this “caucus” thread unless one is a Catholic.

I just saw, today, a Protestant caucus thread, so you can go there.


6 posted on 10/31/2014 1:48:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Never in my life have I seen a Cardinal so critical of a Pope. His words are always nuanced enough for plausible deniability, but you can always tell where they're directed.

Exiling him to Malta was a bad move. It gave Burke 'victim' status and allows him to speak him mind much more openly.

On the plus side, Francis seems to be backpedaling more and more from the Synod. His sermons on the family are much more Orthodox. I hope this means that even if he doesn't believe what he preaches, what he preaches will be Orthodoxy to stop a possible rift in the Church. We'll see next year.
7 posted on 10/31/2014 1:57:06 PM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: miss marmelstein

This Pope scares the bejesus out of me.


8 posted on 10/31/2014 1:57:43 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I understand where you are coming from. He talks too much. Give me the old style popes of my kiddiehood: foreign, distant, unknown.


9 posted on 10/31/2014 2:03:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: DarkSavant
I hope this means that even if he doesn't believe what he preaches, what he preaches will be Orthodoxy to stop a possible rift in the Church.

God always finds a way to safeguard the Deposit of the Faith.

10 posted on 10/31/2014 2:04:13 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Amen.


11 posted on 10/31/2014 2:06:46 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

When I was a little girl, in between getting slapped by a nun for screwing up Catechism question #14, I would retreat into daydreams of the pope - cosseted away in the plush red velvet of the Vatican! He was an amazingly holy, distant and fascinating figure to me. I’d like to go back to those days.


12 posted on 10/31/2014 2:12:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: DarkSavant

Burke is aiming broadsides right at Frances, just like what Cruz does to Obola.


13 posted on 10/31/2014 2:13:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: miss marmelstein
It is hard to move from a freewheeling bishopric to the more constrained position of Pope, where every word is recorded and parsed.

Those "old style popes" were reticent for a reason - there were plenty of anticlerical folks in the press to seize on anything they said.

I think Pope Francis is figuring this out . . . at least I hope so.

14 posted on 10/31/2014 2:15:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Excellent post. I hope he’s figuring it out to.


15 posted on 10/31/2014 2:24:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: DarkSavant

He has good reason to be critical of the “Bishop of Rome.” Francis doesn’t even take his job seriously. I have met Cardinal Burke and he is a very humble and saintly man. If he is speaking this way publicly, you can be sure there is a very, very good reason for him doing so. Pray for him! I do! I also pray for the Pope, that his eyes will be opened to the heresy of the Modernism he spouts. (See “Pascendi Dominici Gregis,” 1907. Pope St. Pius X called Modernism the “synthesis of all heresies.”)


16 posted on 10/31/2014 2:33:53 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: miss marmelstein

OMG!! Sister Callista NEVER SLAPPED anyone!!! You had a horrible nun!!! Heck....I still dream about Benedict!! COME BACK POPE BENEDICT..>>COME BACK!!!


17 posted on 10/31/2014 3:08:02 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Orthodoxy is out, Marxist liberation theology is in!!!

As H.H. Pope Paul VI said during the Vatican II, it seems that the smoke of Hell entered the Church, this time embraced to the liberation theology.

Pray God to not to abandon his Church


18 posted on 10/31/2014 3:15:04 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Ann Archy

Oh, well, you were probably a smart kid. I was hit by dozens of nuns. Sister Clare, Sister Maria Virgo - all hated me, lol.


19 posted on 10/31/2014 3:22:14 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

LOL!!!!


20 posted on 10/31/2014 3:25:37 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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