Posted on 10/20/2014 9:31:28 AM PDT by marshmallow
The Church’s doors are wide open, to receive “not only the just”, “but the needy” too. Francis disproved assumptions about a “disputatious Church where one part is against the other”, guaranteeing its unity. He reiterated that no one ever called into question the indissolubility of marriage and marriage’s openness to life
Speaking after the vote on the content of the Synod’s final document, the relatio synodi (three key paragraphs in the draft document did not win the two thirds majority vote), Francis addressed the assembled Fathers saying: “Dear brothers and sisters, now we still have one year to mature, with true spiritual discernment, the proposed ideas and to find concrete solutions to so many difficulties and innumerable challenges that families must confront; to give answers to the many discouragements that surround and suffocate families.” In his speech, which received a five-minute standing ovation , Francis underlined that the Church’s “doors are wide open to receive the needy”, “not only the just”. He disproved assumptions about a “disputatious Church where one part is against the other”, and presented himself as the “guarantor” of its unity. He reiterated that no one ever called into question the indissolubility of marriage and marriage’s openness to life.
The relatio synodi, Francis emphasised, is “the faithful and clear summary of everything that has been said and discussed in this hall and in the small groups. It is presented to the Episcopal Conferences as ‘lineamenta’”, as a guiding text that is, for the Ordinary Synod in October 2015.
“I can happily say that – with a spirit of collegiality and of synodality – we have truly lived the experience of ‘Synod’, a path of solidarity, a ‘journey together’, the Pope said after thanking everyone present. “And it has been ‘a journey’ – and like every journey....
(Excerpt) Read more at vaticaninsider.lastampa.it ...
putting a time demand on this is kinda like the libtards who claim we have five years, etc, to change or the earth will be lost.
No... it became distorted in the hands of the ignorant and unstable to an end of destruction. 2 Peter 3:16.
You are overreacting. What was published was a mere draft of a few bishops and it was blown out of the water. This is a pastoral document on how in a global Church one may reach the sinners and outcasts. It is emphatically not a teaching of the Magisterium and does not dilute the Catholic Credo or the Catechism for all Catholics in all places for all time.
My late uncle was a Jesuit and he would not have signed on for any of this.
In an interview he gave to Catholic News Service, Cardinal Pell revealed that
three of the synod’s 10 small groups had supported a controversial proposal by German Cardinal Walter Kasper to make it easier for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Communion, even without an annulment of their first, sacramental marriages.
But Cardinal Pell offered this opinion on what the controversy was really about:
“Communion for the divorced and remarried is for some – very few, certainly not the majority of synod fathers – it’s only the tip of the iceberg, it’s a stalking horse. They want wider changes, recognition of civil unions, recognition of homosexual unions,” Cardinal Pell said. “The church cannot go in that direction. It would be a capitulation from the beauties and strengths of the Catholic tradition, where people sacrificed themselves for hundreds, for thousands of years to do this.”
So often on a religious themed thread, somebody will put in a reply calling the Catholic Church, THE ONE TRUE CHURCH. This is to call protestant churches fake I guess, as much as a Pope did himself.
Hi BJ1, there are many ways that people think about the relationship between the Catholic church and the protestant churches. Some of these ways could generate agreement between Protestants and Catholics, though most would likely be examples of our disagreement. The very name Protestant implies a disagreement over something very fundamental, and the nature and role of the Catholic church is one of those things.
Where in Marshamallow's comment do you see the part about the Catholic Church being the ONE TRUE CHURCH in all capital letters? He was talking about the Pope and I think we would all agree that the Pope's church is the Catholic Church, so in context Marshmallow is talking about the Catholic Church. It's doors are always open.
If someone said "the doors to Store 24 must always be open" and someone replied "When have they ever been shut? When has the store ever turned away customers?" I don't think that would imply that they believe that Store 24 is THE ONE TRUE STORE in all capital letters, though they may also think that's true.
Because it is made up out of whole cloth, paganism is all over Catholic doctrine
Nothing happened to Purgatory.
“mature”
Become more “sophisticated”?
Webster’s 1828 (original meaning of the word):
SOPHIST’ICATE, verb transitive
1. To adulterate; to corrupt by something spurious or foreign; to pervert; as, to sophisticate nature, philosophy or the understanding.
Please don’t bring reason and common sense into this discussion; it spoils the unfettered flow of ad hominem attacks!
Yes good point. And it's also telling that one of the first things that Protestant reformers did when they took power was burn all the books:
Under the influence of Calvin and Zwingli’s puritan doctrines, Edward VI ordered his commissioners to:
Take away, utterly extinct and destroy all shrines, coverings of shrines, candlesticks, pictures, paintings and all other monuments of feigned miracles, pilgrimages, idolatry and superstition so that there remain no memory of the same in walls, glasses, windows or elsewhere within their churches or houses.
And following Edward’s reign, Elizabeth I repeated the command and finished what he had started. The result was the wholesale destruction of a millennium of irreplaceable English craftsmanship in windows, statues, frescoes, and paintings. The Tate recently estimated that over 90 per cent of all English art was trashed in the period, and scarcely a handful of books survived the burning of the great monastic and university libraries. Oxford’s vast Bodleian, for instance, was left without a single book.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/dominicselwood/100272287/how-a-protestant-spin-machine-hid-the-truth-about-the-english-reformation/
http://www.thegenteel.com/articles/culture/the-art-of-destruction-part-one
+1
Direct quote or link, please.
Seriously. I'm writing.
I’ve always referred to the UMC’s slogan as “Empty Hearts, Empty Heads, Empty Pews.”
Are there any Catholics who are trying to force you to believe what we believe?
I am giving my interpretation of his position.
I confess my ignorance. Are there Protestant Churches that believe and proclaim they they have a Eucharist which is not simply a symbol, but a real, living sacrifice involving Jesus' actual Body and Blood?
Thinking ...
Stumped me again. What did happen to Purgatory?
My wife and I did our part to unasset our local UMC. I grew up in that church and had to go somewhere where they actually believed the bible.
He said, "... to mature the proposed ideas." One must assume the headline is intentionally erroneous.
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