Posted on 10/13/2014 6:59:33 PM PDT by ebb tide
Ping
Oh, boy. What a word salad.
Be wary of news reports about the what the Synod is up to
Read Fr. Z’s Blog
>http://wdtprs.com/blog/2014/10/be-wary-of-news-reports-about-the-what-the-synod-is-up-to/<
It’s funny (strange funny) that these suggestions are made within only months of two high profile cases of homosexual couples losing communion and ministerial privileges due to them mimicking “marriage.” I don’t think this is an accident.
And I don’t think these homosexuals will be denied full privileges much longer, without modifying their lives. (In fact, they’ll probably receive an apology from Rome itself.)
Except for the introductory sentence, the posted article quoted excerpts of the “relatio” verbatim.
Nobody can blame it on “news reports”. This “relatio” was reviewed and approved by he who convened this Sin-Nod, Pope Francis.
The pope and his hand-picked minions don’t possess the authority to pervert Church teachings. Their arrogance is astonishing.
Fr. Z said this:
>>For example, if the Synod makes a statement about the “gifts and qualities” of homosexuals, keep in mind that homosexuals do NOT have ”gifts and qualities” for the Church simply because they are homosexuals.<<
Yet, Francis’ relatio states:
>>Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?<<
What kind of church document throws out questions rather than serious condemnations of sin?
It’s one big cluster****. Read the reports I posted.
**** The pope and his hand-picked minions don’t possess the authority to pervert Church teachings. Their arrogance is astonishing. ****
Why not?
Past Popes and their hand picked minions certainly did their fair share of perverting the Papalcy and the Church.
From selling the Papalcy, to refusing to resign, to fathering children from numerous baby mommas, murder, adultery, gambling, all forms of abuse and debauchery to questioning the actual gender of one of the Popes, there is a rather colorful history which makes anything this Pope could do seem very tame.
http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/
“Popin’ ain’t easy”
Isn’t it already true that divorced Catholics who have not remarried may receive communion?
First, you credit the relatio as belonging to the Pope.
As for your question “what kind of church?”
Is your church filled with members in 100% agreement on all things?
So which previous pope has countenanced the deliberate undermining of Church teaching regarding the sanctity of marriage and Church teaching condemning homosexual behavior?
Absolutely.
Yes. I know of several.
Hold that 50 foot rod up real high, I sense a storm coming. Let God vote.
There’s nothing sinful with divorce in that the Church doesn’t recognize it as but a separation and hopefully temporary. It’s the adultery of a remarriage that’s the bad....subsequent impoverishment and kids’ suffering notwithstanding.
I’m not sure why you’re asking this question.
Divorced, not remarried Catholics can receive communion so long as they are in a state of grace. Of course, if they are shacking up with someone then the fact that they are not remarried doesn’t change the fact that they should not be receiving communion.
Have read somewhere that there was talks of wanting to “streamline” the annullment process of something in regards to that issue.
Does “Our doom in the making” mean the gates of hell shall prevail? If so, bad headline.
Scandal must be, but Doctrine cannot change.
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