Posted on 10/11/2014 8:36:27 AM PDT by Gamecock
You’re silly. You think God frowns on Billy Graham?
You’re reminding me of one of these .....
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
I do believe what you said came from a sincere heart. I’ll likewise try to give a sincere answer.
Standing between us and the original church of the New Testament, is the ecclesiastical institution that ruled for a thousand years during the middle ages, the RCC.
The $64,000 question is: is it what it claims to be, the historical continuation back to the original church of the New Testament?
A simple reading of what we see in the New Testament over against an “ecclesiastical institution that ruled for a thousand years during the middle ages” simply does not compute.
Once the Bible became available to the common man, the jig was up for the Papacy. The trappings of Romanism, the Mariolatry, other forms of paganism, and so on, is simply not in the Bible. The whole of Protestantism, therefore, has been a major “back to the Bible” effort.
Romanists point out the various denominations within Protestants, they never stop to consider that if it weren’t for the gigantic obstruction standing between us and the original church, there wouldn’t be all these. If the RCC was what they claim, there wouldn’t be all these, neither would we have all these combative threads on FR.
The RCC is the problem, not Protestants.
It is all about faith, my friend. Christianity is all about believing “the right stuff.” You are not a Christian if you don’t. And the only way we know what is the right “stuff” is to compare what we believe with the Bible. The infallible word of God vs a church that claims to be infallible.
So, are the Protestant denominations but offshoots of the Catholic Church, as you claim? No, they are a major historic effort to wrench ourselves past the spiritual darkness of the middle ages to the true faith and beliefs of original Christianity. The true “catholic” (meaning universal) faith.
I’m surprised at your stance on the RCC, since you both have the same eschatology (Amill).Don’t you interpret Rev. 20 the same, you are supposed to be ruling with Christ on thrones during the present and ongoing millennial? Which interpretation, by the way, gave the RCC the authority to burn thousands at the stake. They are supposed to be ruling now on thrones, you know.
I suspect your information comes from an unreliable source.
Very well stated for the church is not a building, nor a manmade organization, but rather it is everyone who receives Jesus Christ as his Redeemer. If a church group requires dues and a membership card to participate it is merely a club.
AMEN and Amen,
and His name is Yahushua
http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm
for MUCH earlier sketch of Yahushua, see my post #102
AMEN and Amen,
and His name is Yahushua
http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm
for MUCH earlier sketch of Yahushua, see my post #102
Yes, He did. It's probably even in your Bible.
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18
i got that impression from past threads dealing with eschatological issues. Sorry ‘bout that.
There are sects who claim that Church on Sunday is wrong,
There are sects who claim that Church on Saturday is wrong,
There are sects who claim that Church on Friday is wrong,
There are sects who claim that Celebrating Lent is wrong,
There are sects who claim that Celebrating Christmas is wrong,
There are sects who claim that Celebrating Easter is wrong,
And then there is the One, Holy and Apostolic Church that has an unbroken line of leadership that dates back to Our Lord founding His Church.
Choose. And for God’s sake, get it right!
Except for flip flops and Vatican II and what very well may come out of the current Synod, everything is the same.
Amen and Amen!!
The church is CHRISTIANITY.
BUMP
You’re almost there, you forgot one word:
“The Catholic Church is Christianity.”
I read your link. It didn’t mention that Peter was formerly named Simon, until Christ renamed him. I wonder if that omission was intentional.
“The Catholic Church is Christianity.”
Thanks but I’ll put my trust in The Lord than an institution.
Are you member of any "church"?
Mark 9:38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he was not following us.” 39But Jesus said, “Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon afterward to speak evil of me. 40For the one who is not against us is for us. 41For truly, I say to you, whoever gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ will by no means lose his reward.We Prods are certainly for Jesus, for them to say we are not is clearly against the teaching of our Lord and Savior. Of course they will hide behind the skirt of tradition.
It’s explained pretty well in Revelation. There are faithful in some of the assemblies. Not so in others. One is called the whore of Babylon and those who God says are His people are urged to get out of it. Most are either Luke warm or have left their first love entirely. Those who tie themselves to a “church” will suffer the consequences that “church” suffers. Those who put their faith in Christ alone will not.
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