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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians

A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. “I don’t understand the deuterocanonical books,” she ventured. “If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews don’t?” She’d done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptures—which is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a “second” (deutero) canon.

My student went on. “I’m just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they aren’t considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out?” she asked. “And why are Protestants so against them?”

The short answer sounds petty and mean, but it’s true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those “extra” Old Testament books—Tobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the like—because they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, “false writings”), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppress—praying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Here’s John Calvin on the subject:

Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?

However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldn’t very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven “apocryphal” books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.

Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today don’t even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luther’s case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for “adding” phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.

In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.

The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic books—case closed! Still unconvinced? Today’s defenders of the reformers’ biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but it’s all really smoke and mirrors.

The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagint—the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luther’s rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon – 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism – 0.

But this is all beside the point. It’s like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs could’ve been on board Noah’s Ark. Once you’re arguing about that, you’re no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how it’s supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.

I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we don’t have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Church’s teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches “solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings” (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.

Can there be any doubt that this is by God’s design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, it’s true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Word—and we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:

The Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.”

Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldn’t have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:

Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.

Right. The Church says so, and that’s good enough.

For it’s the Church who gives us the Scriptures. It’s the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. It’s the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with God’s Word. Isn’t it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures she’s feeding us with? “No, mother,” the infant cries, “not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!”

Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smith’s remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. It’s a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smith’s epic story receives so little attention.

I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name “Betty Smith” on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.

The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. “It wasn’t nearly as good as Tree,” she said, “and I don’t expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.”

See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.

But Jesus isn’t like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: dsc

Yeah; me too...

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080721113029AABX1OG


1,001 posted on 10/10/2014 11:15:56 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dsc

the first one or the second one?


1,002 posted on 10/10/2014 11:16:49 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

You just engaged in both!


1,003 posted on 10/10/2014 12:11:39 PM PDT by Syncro (The Body of Christ [His church]: Made up of every born again Christian. Source--Jesus in the Bible)
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To: Elsie; BlueDragon; dsc
Just correct your own bad behavior, and let the entire fang and claw squad do the same, and all will be sweetness and light.

You just cannot make this stuff up!

    Translation: Do not ever contradict anything a FRoman Catholic states is dogmatic truth (because their magesterium SAYS it is) and do not show any displeasure towards their anti-anyone-who-isn't-a-Roman-Catholic bigotry (because there is NEVER any such thing EVER on Free Republic). Then we will all get along and it will all be sweetness and light!

That kind of "sweetness and light" is, in reality, nothing but bitterness and darkness. Bitterness, because it expects non-Catholics to swallow whatever the current magesterium thinks is the truth - regardless if there is Apostolic or Scriptural evidence or basis. And darkness, because, at the core, is an accursed gospel that denies grace and the role of faith in Christ's substitutionary sacrifice for our sins. Accepting this false gospel - that our works are necessary to our salvation - will lead to eternal darkness separated from God. Though Roman Catholicism is certainly not wrong about everything in the Christian faith, this one perversion of the gospel is serious enough that it can deceive a person into trusting in themselves instead of Jesus Christ for salvation.

    Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ. (2 Corinthians 4:1-6)

1,004 posted on 10/10/2014 3:18:38 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
Thanks
1,005 posted on 10/10/2014 3:56:02 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: CynicalBear

I know that. The point was that the promise involves Mary in the context. Learn to read and comprehend the matter read.


1,006 posted on 10/10/2014 6:04:44 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: CynicalBear; boatbums; BlueDragon; Springfield Reformer; daniel1212

The promise is, however, about the future, which is the point. Consider verse 16.


1,007 posted on 10/10/2014 6:09:52 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: boatbums

It is often the case that we read something in the scripture and not fully know the context; yet we obey the scripture as written, including admitting that if some detail is not provided then it is not necessary. The exact composition of “the scripture” is not given by St. Paul, but the qualification “known to thee since infancy” is given. Therefore, however imprecise the composition of the Septuagint was copy to copy (remember, they were not physically one object as modern books are), what was important to st. Paul is that the Septuagint is inspired in any of its configurations.

The issue of canon of the Old Testament did not concern the Church till about 3rd century. we see some fathers approve of the Deuterocanon and others disapprove. Prior to that, the Church was mostly concerned with the provenance and authenticity of the New Testament books. When the Church concerned herself with this issue, she worked out the canon by the early 5 c. The Council of Carthage is evidence that the matter was settled.


1,008 posted on 10/10/2014 6:20:20 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
>>The point was that the promise involves Mary in the context.<<

No it does not. First of all the "woman" is not Mary. It is Eve who Satan tempted and it is she who is being talked about. It also then switches to her "seed". Mary is no where in the narrative. The "new Eve" concept is totally a Catholic construct.

1,009 posted on 10/10/2014 6:29:18 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Springfield Reformer
if you say you have not impeached Beckwith, how can his conclusion be regarded as facially absurd?

I have not impeached him by pointing out his confessional bias, -- I was in agreement with you that it is not enough to point out a confession or a political party to impeach an authority. But I also pointed out two facts:

1. The Catholic Encyclopedia says the same thing Beckwith says in the PDF link that you posted: the extant copies of the Septuagint are of Christian provenance. That is not a proof that the books themselves are written by Christians and not even a discovery by Beckwith. In fact, as I pointed out, it is hard to find a motive for such deception: while the books in question contain many occasional statements that prefigure Christ, their volume and historical thrust does not help a Christian apologist.

2. The references to the Deuterocanon are plentiful among pre-Nicaean fathers such as Sts. Justine Martyr, Hippolytus and Irenaeus, and to Origen. This makes Beckwith's hypothesis absurd on its face. Therefore it is incumbent of Beckwith to somehow deal with this fact. Yet the short article you posted bypasses this issue. Now, giving him a benefit of the doubt, it is possible that he addresses it in his book. But the fact that in the article he makes no such attempt makes me not interested to find out. The article looks like agitprop for the uneducated.

1,010 posted on 10/10/2014 6:36:00 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Elsie

Genesis 3:15 speaks of the seed of the woman crushing the head of the serpent. That is Mary’s presence in the context. It is a good idea to read the Holy Bible every once in a while.


1,011 posted on 10/10/2014 6:38:42 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
>>The promise is, however, about the future, which is the point. Consider verse 16.<<

Not as far as the remembrance is concerned.

John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

He was addressing the apostles and was talking about what He had said to them while He had been with them.

1,012 posted on 10/10/2014 6:46:32 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: BlueDragon
What came to be called deuterocanon does not later become "inspired" text 1500 years later

Not so, St. Paul writes that "all scripture" known to St. Timothy "from his infancy" is inspired. Council of Carthage lists the Deuterocanonical books as canonical, too.

Regarding "temple Judaism" I meant it to refer to the period in Judaism before the killing of Christ and the destruction of the Second Temple foreseen by Him. Temple Judaism is not the same as rabbinical Judaism since then on. I did not make a claim that the temple worship was ever conducted in Greek; I am pretty sure it was not.

Regarding "set of questions", please make a precise reference and I'll try again.

1,013 posted on 10/10/2014 6:47:53 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: CynicalBear

If Jesus is “the seed” then Mary is “the woman”.


1,014 posted on 10/10/2014 6:49:18 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: CynicalBear; annalex
Need to clean that up.

John 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

1,015 posted on 10/10/2014 6:52:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: annalex

Jesus is also the seed of Eve as we all are.


1,016 posted on 10/10/2014 6:53:57 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: Elsie

See 1009


1,017 posted on 10/10/2014 6:55:13 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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To: CynicalBear

But Jesus speaks of the future when He will ascend to heaven He even makes the point that it is necessarily a future presence of the Paraclete in John 16:7. Note also that the Holy Spirit will not only remind of words spoken in the past, but also “shall teach all things”. The divine guidance of the Holy Church for all ages to come is promised in this sermon.


1,018 posted on 10/10/2014 6:57:08 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: CynicalBear

LOL. Women ordinarily don’t have “seed”, — their fathers do, and what would the point be to make a universal reference to how men are born into a reference to specifically Jesus Who was NOT born of a man’s seed, Who has a specific mother, to whom several chapters of the Gospels are dedicated?


1,019 posted on 10/10/2014 7:01:46 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Devine guidence is given individuals who are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Never an institution. It’s the ekklesia (assembly) of those believers who are the “pillar and upholder” of truth. Never an organization.


1,020 posted on 10/10/2014 7:03:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus info)
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