Pope Francis Supposedly Claimed Virgin Mary Is Second Trinity, At Godhead Level

Pope Francis, with his open-mindedness and more humanist approach to Catholicism reportedly promoted that the Virgin Mary should be at the second Holy Trinity, even putting her at Godhead level.

Pope Francis recently attended the morning mass for the Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows on Sept. 15 at Casa Santa Marta. He preached on how the Virgin Mary "learned, obeyed and suffered at the foot of the cross," according to the Vatican Radio.

"Even the Mother, 'the New Eve', as Paul himself calls her, in order to participate in her Son's journey, learned, suffered and obeyed. And thus she becomes Mother," Pope Francis said.

The Pope further added that Mary is the "anointed Mother." Pope Francis said the Virgin Mary is one with the church. Without her Jesus Christ would not have been born and introduced into Christian lives. Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church.

"Without the Church, we cannot go forward," the Pope added during his sermon.

Now The End Begins claims Pope Francis' reflection on the Virgin Mary suggests people's hope is not Jesus Christ but the Mother Church.

The site claims his sermon somehow indicates a change in the position Jesus holds in the Holy Trinity. Jesus has reportedly been demoted to the third trinity. While the Virgin Mary and the Holy Mother Church, the Roman Catholic Church, takes over his place at the second trinity.

Additionally, basing on Pope Francis words he may have supposedly even put the status of the Blessed Virgin Mary at the "Godhead level."

Revelation 17:4-6 according to the site, gives meaning to the Pope's reflection. The chapter tells the story of the apostle John and his "great admiration" for the Virgin Mary. Now The End Begins claims the verses also speaks about the Holy Mother Church and how God thinks of the "holy Roman Mother Church".

However, the Bible seems to contradict Pope Francis promotion of the Virgin Mary to second trinity. The site quoted some passages wherein the "blessed hope" of the Christians is "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." There was reportedly never any mention of the Virgin Mary as being any kind of hope to anyone or anything.

But during the Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows, Pope Francis ended his reflection with the assurance of hope from the Virgin Mary and the Mother Church.

"Today we can go forward with a hope: the hope that our Mother Mary, steadfast at the Cross, and our Holy Mother, the hierarchical Church, give us," he said.

However, the Bible's passages shouldn't be taken literally, especially when it comes to reflections of the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ.

“First you say you didn’t choose name; and now you do.”

No. I said, “I didn’t choose [HIS = Lenin’s] name.” I did not type out a whole sentence. I make typos like everyone else.

“It’s no wonder you are having trouble getting a clear stream of thought going here.”

I’ve never had a problem have clear thoughts. I occasionally have problems typing them however.

1) Did you exchange wedding vows in public, or before family members? That’s from pagans.

2) Bride in white? That’s from pagans.

3) Wedding bouquet? That’s from pagans.

4) Honeymoon? That’s from pagans.

5) Maid of honor? That’s from pagans.

6) Groomsmen? That’s from pagans.

“We know; but there just might be some mis/un informed lurkers here that are not so close minded.”

I’m not closed minded. I’m just experienced with anti-Catholics on FR. The “throw-everything-in-including-the-kitchen-sink” approach or the “I-have-no-idea-what-I’m-talking-about-but-I-have-to-keep-attacking-the-Catholic-Church” approach just make no sense to me.

Way back when, I used to take every word a Protestant anti-Catholic said to me very seriously and dealt with every single word posted to me. Over time, however, I realized that even the Protestant anti-Catholics didn’t take what they posted seriously. That’s why they resorted to the tactic that I probably can’t name. You can see an example of me catching one at it and forcing him to admit on my profile page (and that has happened more than once).

“They’ll surely look at ALL the evidence before making a judgment call.”

Maybe they will. Maybe they won’t. Judging by the private emails I get, they’re always learning about how little anti-Catholics now and to what tactics they will stoop.

You keep making evasive comments. Here are the questions yet again.

1) Did you exchange wedding vows in public, or before family members? That’s from pagans.

2) Bride in white? That’s from pagans.

3) Wedding bouquet? That’s from pagans.

4) Honeymoon? That’s from pagans.

5) Maid of honor? That’s from pagans.

6) Groomsmen? That’s from pagans.

What would you do with your time if you didn't keep trying to justify all the things Catholicism has foisted upon it's members and the world?

When I'm not on Free Republic (I don't always click in; I give it up totally for Lent), I do more gardening, reading, cleaning (ack!), and praying. But being of an addictive-type personality (Free Republic is addicting for me), and not possessing my hearing, I come to the Net in general for communion, conversation, and the news.

One man on Twitter, though, told me he started going back to daily Mass due to my enthusiasm for Christ in the Eucharist. That was sweet and hopeful. Thank you, Jesus! I ♥ the Catholic faith. Anyone wishing to know what the "big deal" is over receiving Christ in the Eucharist, should attend a DAILY Mass (where the lifesaving troops congregate; Sundays have many lukewarm parishioners), and see for themselves the Goodness of the Lord. All are invited.

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Well, as usual, your long post says little or nothing of important and in no way changes the truth of anything I said.

You didn't see yourself right there in the middling portions?

That was for you.

Altogether it was of more import than the defensiveness displayed in the "Luther chatted up the devil" type of misrepresentation of things which you engaged in -- done after accusing Elsie of "making things up" concerning a list of evil popes having taken their orders from the devil.

The brief notes of what those popes were noted for provide grounds for extrapolating they were much in the thrall of Satan.

****> “The last official Spanish execution for heresy was in 1826, when a schoolmaster was hanged for substituting “Praise be to God” for “Ave Maria” in school prayers. The limpieza de sangre statutes remained valid (though increasingly unenforceable) until 1865.
History of Christianity Paul Johnson p. 308****

Telling, isn’t it?

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