Posted on 09/17/2014 9:07:14 AM PDT by thetallguy24
Pope Francis, with his open-mindedness and more humanist approach to Catholicism reportedly promoted that the Virgin Mary should be at the second Holy Trinity, even putting her at Godhead level.
Pope Francis recently attended the morning mass for the Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows on Sept. 15 at Casa Santa Marta. He preached on how the Virgin Mary "learned, obeyed and suffered at the foot of the cross," according to the Vatican Radio.
"Even the Mother, 'the New Eve', as Paul himself calls her, in order to participate in her Son's journey, learned, suffered and obeyed. And thus she becomes Mother," Pope Francis said.
The Pope further added that Mary is the "anointed Mother." Pope Francis said the Virgin Mary is one with the church. Without her Jesus Christ would not have been born and introduced into Christian lives. Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church.
"Without the Church, we cannot go forward," the Pope added during his sermon.
Now The End Begins claims Pope Francis' reflection on the Virgin Mary suggests people's hope is not Jesus Christ but the Mother Church.
The site claims his sermon somehow indicates a change in the position Jesus holds in the Holy Trinity. Jesus has reportedly been demoted to the third trinity. While the Virgin Mary and the Holy Mother Church, the Roman Catholic Church, takes over his place at the second trinity.
Additionally, basing on Pope Francis words he may have supposedly even put the status of the Blessed Virgin Mary at the "Godhead level."
Revelation 17:4-6 according to the site, gives meaning to the Pope's reflection. The chapter tells the story of the apostle John and his "great admiration" for the Virgin Mary. Now The End Begins claims the verses also speaks about the Holy Mother Church and how God thinks of the "holy Roman Mother Church".
However, the Bible seems to contradict Pope Francis promotion of the Virgin Mary to second trinity. The site quoted some passages wherein the "blessed hope" of the Christians is "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." There was reportedly never any mention of the Virgin Mary as being any kind of hope to anyone or anything.
But during the Feast of Our Lady of Sorrows, Pope Francis ended his reflection with the assurance of hope from the Virgin Mary and the Mother Church.
"Today we can go forward with a hope: the hope that our Mother Mary, steadfast at the Cross, and our Holy Mother, the hierarchical Church, give us," he said.
However, the Bible's passages shouldn't be taken literally, especially when it comes to reflections of the Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ.
Whom to believe?
Your 'pope' or your BIBLE?
Luke 17:23 Douay-Rheims Bible
And they will say to you: See here, and see there. Go ye not after, nor follow them:
That's the same thing I've been thinking.
They adore Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. It’s an idol to you because you do not believe it to be true. http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html
....”there is a need for silent adoration of Jesus concealed in the Host”.....
Jesus Concealed???? Jesus hidden?????
Let me point out that the entire Bible “REVEALS” Jesus Christ in every single chapter....for your reference here are just a few:
Christ is the central theme of the Bible. Every book of the Bible reveals something more about our glorious Saviour. Below is a brief summary.
Genesis - Creator, Seed of the Woman, Ark of Salvation
Exodus - Passover Lamb, Deliverer, High Priest
Leviticus - High Priest, Sacrifice, Way of Approach to God
Numbers - Pillar of Cloud by Day, Pillar of Fire by Night, Tabernacle, Smitten Rock, Star out of Jacob
Deuteronomy - Prophet Like Moses, Law Giver
Joshua - Captain of our Salvation, Victorious Leader
Judges - Judge and Law-Giver, Deliverer
Ruth - Kinsman-Redeemer, Lover, Protector
I Samuel - Anointed Prophet and Priest, True Claimant to Scepter of Judah, Throne of David and Everlasting Kingdom
II Samuel - Son of David, Greater David
I Kings - Only Perfect King, Greater Solomon, Builder of God’s Temple
II Kings - Perfect King, Man of God, Word of God
I Chronicles - Reigning King
II Chronicles - Perfect King, Priest and Prophet
Ezra - Faithful Scribe, Builder and Restorer of the Church
Nehemiah - Rebuilder of the Broken Walls, Governor of the Church, Restorer and Protector
Esther - Our Mordecai, Advocate
Job - Ever-Living Redeemer
Psalms - Our Shepherd, All in All, Beloved of God, Our Rock, Our Fortress
Proverbs - Wisdom of God
Ecclesiastes - Wisdom of God, Preacher, Son of David, King of Jerusalem
Song of Solomon - Perfect Lover and Bridegroom, King of Peace
Isaiah - Messiah, Holy One of Israel, Prince of Peace, Salvation, Righteousness, Comfort, Judge
Jeremiah - Righteous Branch, Lord our Righteousness
Lamentations - Man of Sorrows, Weeping Prophet
Ezekiel - Four-Faced Man, Son of Man Sent to Rebellious Israel
Daniel - Fourth Man in the Fiery Furnace, Smitten Stone that Fills the Earth, King of kings
Hosea - Patient Bridegroom, Healer of the Backslider
Joel - Baptizer with the Holy Spirit, Deliverer, Judge
Amos - Burden-Bearer, Heavenly Bridegroom, Judge
Obadiah - Saviour, Judge, Executor of Divine Retribution
Jonah - Foreign Missionary, One Greater than Jonah
Micah - Messenger with Beautiful Feet, Rejected King
Nahum - Avenger, Stronghold in the Day of Trouble, Prophet of Comfort and Vengeance
Habakkuk - God of My Salvation, Judge of Babylon, Rewarder of Those Who Seek Him
Zephaniah - Lord Mighty to Save, Executor of Judgment
Haggai - Prophet, Priest and King, Builder of the House of the Lord
Zechariah - Righteous Branch, Yahweh’s Servant, Smitten Shepherd, King-Priest
Malachi - Sun of Righteousness, Messenger of the New Covenant, Refiner, Purifier of His People
Matthew - Son of David, Head of the Church, Saviour
Mark - Suffering Servant of Yahweh, Mighty King
Luke - Son of Man, Sympathetic High Priest, Saviour
John - Son of God, One Who Brings Eternal Life
Acts - One Sitting at the Right Hand of God, Prince of the Kings of the Earth
Romans - Lord our Righteousness, Justifier, Redeemer, Saviour
I Corinthians - Foundation of the Church, Unifier, Great Sacrifice, Resurrected One, Coming Lord
II Corinthians - Son of God, One Who Anoints, Reconciler
Galatians - Great Redeemer, Seed of Abraham, Liberator
Ephesians - Heavenly King, Reconciler, Head of the Body, Giver of Ministry Gifts
Philippians - Source of the Fruits of Righteousness, One Equal with God Who Humbled Himself, Coming One
Colossians - Pre-eminent One, Redeemer in the Image of God
I Thessalonians - Risen Lord, Coming King
II Thessalonians - Coming King, Great Judge, Faithful One
I Timothy - Enabler Who Ministers, Mediator, God in the Flesh, King of kings
II Timothy - Victor Over Death, Resurrected Seed of David>BR>
Titus - One Who Appoints the Leaders in the Church, Coming Saviour
Philemon - Controller of the Destiny of His Servants
Hebrews - Son and Image of God, Captain and Author of Our Salvation, Apostle and High Priest
James - Unchangeable Father, Wisdom of God, Husbandman, Coming Lord
I Peter - One Who was Resurrected, Chief Cornerstone
II Peter - Saviour, Coming One, Deliverer
I John - Word of Life, Advocate, Propitiator, Messiah
II John - Son of God, God Come in the Flesh
III John - Truth, One Who is Good
Jude - Preserver, Coming Judge, Merciful One
Revelation - Coming One, Beginning and End, Son of Man, Great Judge, Lion of Judah, Conquering One, Lamb, Bridegroom, Faithful, True, Word of God
“and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.”
Now Christian.
How’s that pagan wedding ring feeling?
"Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God"
>>How’s that pagan wedding ring feeling?≤<
I don't wear a wedding ring.
I didn’t choose name.
I choose his: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_the_Great and his: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov_(philosopher)
Luther said he chatted with the Devil. Your problem and his, not mine.
“These men were following Satan’s orders; but you Catholics do not ‘care’.”
Show me “Satan’s orders” to them. If you fail (and how could it be otherwise?) that will just show us you’re making something up yet again.
I did. A great one.
Yes, concealed. Yes, hidden! Would you rather the bloody flesh of Jesus be visible in the Eucharist? It HAS been through various Eucharistic Miracles, of course, but otherwise, no. And the flesh turned out to be the flesh of a heart (at the miracle of Lanciano). And regarding your Bible chapters, have you ever been to a Catholic Mass? We hear/read Scripture every day!
Caww, if Jesus didn’t leave himself with us on the earth after he died, we’d all be dead ourselves long ago. We are a weak people. Christ would never have abandoned us. The Eucharistic Miracles are proof (not that he should have to send us some) that he is alive in the Living Bread. Read up on the saints; they will all tell you it’s true, in a lot better way than I ever could.
“I don’t wear a wedding ring.”
But you did once?
So, at your wedding, did you have the following:
1) Did you exchange wedding vows in public, or before family members? That’s from pagans.
2) Bride in white? That’s from pagans.
3) Wedding bouquet? That’s from pagans.
4) Honeymoon? That’s from pagans.
5) Maid of honor? That’s from pagans.
6) Groomsmen? That’s from pagans.
I hope you enjoyed your foray into paganism - as per your own understanding. I only participate in Christian things.
What part of “Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:” do you not understand?
Nope
1) Did you exchange wedding vows in public, or before family members? That’s from pagans.
2) Bride in white? That’s from pagans.
3) Wedding bouquet? That’s from pagans.
4) Honeymoon? That’s from pagans.
5) Maid of honor? That’s from pagans.
6) Groomsmen? That’s from pagans.
“What part of “Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:” do you not understand?”
There is nothing about it I don’t understand. I don’t violate it. Can YOU, by your own standards, claim the same.
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