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Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.
But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:
"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.
As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...
Let’s recap the action.
I wrote, “He said it was the first commandment. He didn’t say it was the first of two. A person would have to be a drooling moron to think that God left us only two instructions.”
You replied, “Wrong. He said it was the GREATEST commandment, not the first.”
I replied, “Read down a little further.”
To which you answered, “He never said the second was the greatest. He said the second is like it.
How can there be two greatest commandments?”
This seems to me a complete non sequitur.
What I meant was read down to Matthew 22:38. “This is the greatest and the first commandment.”
Those passages do not say that we are to have no love for anyone or anything except God.
Some people here seem to think they say that, but they do not.
“Link?”
www.freerepublic.com
That is not license to make up stuff and pass it off as truth.
And who's talking about the KJV anyway?
Why are you dragging that into it?
Have you nothing else left to use but red herrings?
And I didn't say that either.
Proof from scripture please. Book and chapter.
Why do Catholics always twist someone's words? No one has said love for someone is idolitry. It's when that "love" comes before Christ.
To that DSC responds:"Your god is a third-grader. Your god is stingy. Your god only gives his creatures a tiny fraction of what God offers."
God says:
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Hmmm, who to listen to. I'm going with God who metmom quoted.
Here are some versions of Mt 22:38--
This is the great and first commandment.(ESV)
This is the great and first commandment. (ASV)
This is the first and greatest rule. (BBE)
This is the greatest and most important a commandment. (ISV)
This is the first and great commandment. (KJV)
This is the first and great commandment. (NKJV)
This is the great and first commandment (RV)
This is the greatest and foremost Commandment. (Weymouth)
this is a first and great command; (Young's Literal)
I'd like to know what version you quoted, please.
Chapter and verse?
It is truly tragic that you Protestants cut yourselves off from the gifts God offers to us.
God GIVES us gifts, He doesn't OFFER them and they are listed in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12.
On what planet?
A person can be saved without being baptized, but nobody ever said that baptism is *false*.
The teaching that baptism is required is a false teaching, however.
There you go, dealing with facts again.
Catholics wouldn’t make those comments if they studied scripture instead of Catholicism.
On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.
So much for bragging rights about how the RCC gave the world the Bible and are the only ones capable of *correctly* interpreting it.
If what we've seen on these threads from Catholics as a whole is an example of the Catholic church's ability to *correctly* interpret Scripture and pass that knowledge on to its constituents, we're WAAAYYYYYY better off with our own personal interpretations.
I never read as much Scripture in my entire Catholic life as I did within the first couple days of owning my new Bible.
I have learned way more on my own than I ever did as a Catholic either from mass or catechism classes.
I never read as much Scripture in my entire Catholic life as I did within the first couple days of owning my new Bible.
I have learned way more on my own than I ever did as a Catholic either from mass or catechism classes.
Amen! and AMEN!!
If what we've seen on these threads from Catholics as a whole ...
I believe that on a thread like this, we hear from the zealots. These are the hard core catholic gatherers. I believe they are more acquainted with the "traditions" (and all the variations thereto) than most people in their gathering places. I believe most catholics do not have even an introductory knowledge of God's Word and that most only blindly follow their traditions.
My hope is that there are some who read these comments and will see there is a better way. I pray that they are the ones who will be changed in the process - as the Holy Spirit convicts them of their need for a restored relationship with the Father through Jesus Christ.
I also pray that those who have been enlightened will be seeking to honor God as they do His will.
To those who speak English, to “depend on” something and to comprise the whole of something are not synonymous.
“On what planet?”
Yours.
“A person can be saved without being baptized, but nobody ever said that baptism is *false*.”
You do, in your next sentence.
Besides, you can’t rebut the observed phenomenon with one cherry-picked instance.
“Chapter and verse?”
I actually laughed when I read that.
It’s pathetic.
“God GIVES us gifts, He doesn’t OFFER them”
Considering that He leaves you free to hurl them back in his face, the word “offer” is completely correct.
“and they are listed in 1 Corinthians 12 and Romans 12.”
Laughing again, more sadly.
Protestantism in its more virulent forms is theological leftism.
“I’d like to know what version you quoted, please.”
Now what hobby horse are you off on?
Most of them include the word “first,” while the others use the synonym “foremost” and the synonym “most important.”
So much for baseless accusations.
But I've come to expect it.
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