Posted on 09/05/2014 9:28:41 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=680583
“Catholic Charities is for anyone in need. They do not ask you your faith. The Salvation Army also received Federal money. All faith-based charities do.
By the way the Knights of Columbus does not get a cent from the Federal government and has no overhead. Every penny goes to helping those in need.”
All of that would seem to take the sting out of a charge that “Catholics get a LOT of money through social programs.”
In 2012, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops received $63 million
Hmmm....is this one reason why Dolan now seems to be supporting gays?
Ah, I see you were talking about institutions not members of congregations. At first I thought you were going after the Irish!
I am not sure what your personal issue is but all the religions, and I would point out that probably 90% of Blacks are Baptist and we know where most government money is funneled, get too much government money! And let’s not leave out the current administrations favorite, the muslims, not just here but all around the world.
We really need to distinguish between Catholic Charities getting government money and Catholics getting government money.
I don’t view the Catholic Bishops as a charity.
Don’t think Dolan is homosexual, but I do think he’s a liberal democrat.
Now, I don't now if this is accurate but it is a Catholic forum reporting it.
A good many of them are apostates. Arguably, Dolan has apostatized. How many times can a person assert that pro-abortion people are good Catholics without being an apostate? Dolan has made such statements about David Paterson and Andrew Cuomo.
“Don’t think Dolan is homosexual”
I can’t gainsay you. It’s just that I’ve thought it since the first time I saw his picture.
The Saint Patrick’s day parade is no place for a fag group prancing down the street half-dressed and promoting perversion. Let’s get real! Stand up to the homosexuals. If they want to not act like nature made them, then let them but without approval from normal people living the life that they were born into. A man who does not wish to live as a man or a woman who does not wish to live as a woman is simply arrogant. That’s all there is to it.
Catholics in need as well as others do get services from Catholic Charities. This is a Catholic organization and an agent of the Catholic Church,
Do not lose sight of the subject of this thread ie the conservatives disappointed in Cardinal Dolan. The Catholic Church taking federal money poses dangers as illustrated in a comment from another source.
“Re: 62% of Catholic Charities $ from US Gov’t?
I have no reason to doubt the 62% number.
However, I do have concerns about the wisdom of it from the Church’s point of view. There was a time when Catholic institutions of all kinds received nothing from the government, relying entirely on donations, and, to all appearances, did a pretty good job of charitable works.
Lots of things changed, including the shortage of priests and nuns who often staffed the institutions. But also, the governments at every level have progressively increased taxes, so (or so I believe) charitable giving is getting “crowded out” by governmental entities.
So, government handles the money and gives some of it to the entities to which people might have otherwise donated but for the ever-increasing taxation. It does not, to me, make a lot of sense other than from the government beaurocratic point of view.
But increasingly, we’re also seeing governmental interference in the expression of the charitable missions. Catholic adoption agencies are defunded unless they place children with homosexuals; Obama requires that they pay for contraceptive and abortion insurance coverage; Obama disqualifies a Catholic organization from providing refugee aid because it won’t refer them for abortions.
In other words, it appears to me the Catholic organizations are now progressively being “crowded out” of charitable enterprises from the other side as well. The future of such organizations does not look all that rosy to me unless individual Catholics decide to change their “giving” habits significantly.
Yes, one gets a tax deduction for charitable donations. But that isn’t dollar for dollar. To “replace” government defunding of Catholic organizations, Catholics would have to reduce their personal consumption, which is hard in a consumerist society. But in my opinion, it’s going to come to that, probably along with a significant reduction in the number and missions of the various Catholic charitable organizations. Some of the existing ones will elect to “go secular”, as some of the “Catholic” hospitals have done, and more of which appear to be on the cusp of doing it.”
“The Catholic Church taking federal money poses dangers as illustrated in a comment from another source.”
Wisely said.
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