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To: NKP_Vet

I guess when the New World was discovered all those proclamations and decrees went out the window.

“1435: Papal Encyclical – Sicut Dudum – of Pope Eugene IV banning enslavement on pain of excommunication.”

Please name for me anyone, in a position to matter, who was excommunicated for slavery between the years 1492-1886. As they say, talk is cheap.


8 posted on 08/31/2014 7:44:11 AM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

You’re right. Your Catholic ancestors were sure bad Christians.


9 posted on 08/31/2014 8:05:50 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: gusty
I guess when the New World was discovered all those proclamations and decrees went out the window....Please name for me anyone, in a position to matter, who was excommunicated for slavery between the years 1492-1886. As they say, talk is cheap.

Cases in point:
Abp. Dolan: American Catholic Leadership against Abortion Redeems Laxity against Slavery
Statue of first Catholic Supreme Court justice may go [Chief Justice Taney/"Dred Scott" decision]
Black History: The Slave Coast
The Jesuits’ Slaves

12 posted on 08/31/2014 9:28:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: gusty

My Aunt Lucy was excommunicated in 1493. So there!


14 posted on 08/31/2014 11:07:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: gusty
Accompanying the bull was another document, Pastorale Officium, which attached a latae sententiae excommunication remittable only by the pope himself for those who attempted to enslave the Indians or steal their goods.

You understand what latae sententiae excommunication is, right? That it's automatic and requires no decree or other notice by church authority?

15 posted on 08/31/2014 11:36:13 AM PDT by Campion
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To: gusty

This is worth your time:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/julyweb-only/7-14-53.0.html?start=1

Pope Zachary excommunicated Venetian slave traders in 750. Not within your time frame, however.

According to J. Pashington Obeng’s Asante Catholicism: Religious and Cultural Reproduction Among the Akan of Ghana, anyone violating Urban VIII’s letter against slavery in the West Indies and Africa was “automatically excommunicated” (page 112).

Protestants sometimes excommunicated slaves for threatening to flee their enslavement: See Donald G. Matthew, Religion in the Old South (page 147). Nobody’s perfect, right?


23 posted on 08/31/2014 2:53:30 PM PDT by vladimir998
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