Posted on 08/25/2014 2:16:13 AM PDT by markomalley
Good point.
Claud,
Your comment: “Is it really credible that Christ would allow His Bride the Church to fall into such grave error that everyone from the Supreme Pontiff to the pewsitter is now manifestly outside it, save for a few straggling remnants, none of whom agree with each other?”
Made me think of Calvin and the pre-destination of souls theory and the 144,000 elect to go to heaven. Neither of which I believe in, as an ultimate destination/definition of “a few straggling remnants.” And I realize that you didn’t infer either.
Satanists are smarter than prots. That is my take away.
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C'mon...give me a break. Below-the-belt comments don't help anything.
I'm not trying to defend Protestants with their spectrum of beliefs regarding the True Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist. But a broad-brush statement like that puts every one of them in the same pot overall, not just regarding their understanding of the Eucharist.
There are some very thoughtful Protestants around FR including some of the people who have posted on this thread. And there are total a$$h@ts. You shouldn't denigrate the thoughtful by lumping them together with the a$$h@ts...and you shouldn't elevate the a$$h@ts by grouping them with the thoughtful.
Yep, the temptation is always there. Gnosticism, Montanism, Calvinism, Jansenism, modern sedevacantism—we’ll carve out a little group of elect and stand as the remnant (until we start fighting each other).
Oh boy, not smarts, no no. Satanists gain power and knowledge directly from the demons and thus understand the supernatural reality far better than we mortals.
Horrible, horrible way to learn about the Real Presence, and certainly of no help to salvation. Give me an earnest Protestant who memorializes Jesus with grape juice and crackers any day before that--at least that act is done with love.
It takes God's grace to understand the Real Presence. If we rely on smarts we're all doomed.
You see, the demons, being eternal supernatural creatures, KNOW. They are not constrained by time and space as we are, nor are they in our position of reliance upon faith in the assurance of things hoped for and proof of things not seen.
God wishes our free, willing love and faith . . . not the overwhelming knowledge which afflicts the demons.
Thank you.... Very true...
If you want to know how satan works, just read “Sun Tsu’s Art of War” There are a lot of similar tactics!
A prot on the other hand is vehemently anti-Catholic, will always bring of priestly molestation of children, needs to ping 72 members of their posse because that is their idea of a fair fight, detests Mary, etc.....
Actually you couldn't be more wrong. Satan works using Alynsky's "Rules for Radicals"
I would suggest that you would want to read any of the books by the retired exorcist of the Diocese of Rome, Gabriele Amorth.
Of course it's credible!
Just read up on St Athanasius, Pope Liberius and the Arian heresy.
Actually you couldn't be more wrong. Satan works using Alynsky's "Rules for Radicals"
If you look at the Rules for Radicals you would find the similarities with the "Art of War." They both address creating disruption within your enemy rather than a frontal attack.
I recently purchased both of his books and am currently reading the first. I find it accurate, but kind of boring as it is like reading a book I have already read. He is preaching to the choir!
The experiences are the same or very similar wherever they occur.
It’s amazing how much one better understands the Crisis in the Church when they know Church history and the Traditional Faith.
No “personal vendetta” though your post to me sure sounds like you have one towards me. It is much easier to make me out to be the bad guy doesn’t it?
Like ebbtide said, it also describes the early Church during the Arian heresy. It might behoove you to learn about that time in Church history.
And there’s more.
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