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To: markomalley

My beautiful triplet nieces turn 24 next month. They were conceived via IVF, one of modern medicine’s true miracles. Perhaps you can come over to their birthday party and tell them how awful it is that they walk the earth.


2 posted on 08/04/2014 2:30:48 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555

My IVF-conceived twin boys would have a blast at your nieces’ party! :)

My husband’s and my twins are healthy, happy, well-behaved, homeschooled, learning to think for themselves, and — I hope — future conservatives. I don’t think we have too much to apologize for.


3 posted on 08/04/2014 2:34:33 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: jalisco555; Hetty_Fauxvert

Three questions just for curiosity sake:

How many of the mother’s eggs were fertilized?

What happened to the blastocysts that were not implanted?

Are there plans to implant the remaining blastocysts?


6 posted on 08/04/2014 3:11:05 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: jalisco555

Catholics aren’t against all fertility treatments — only those that involve the destruction of embryos, obtaining genetic material through means that go against Catholic teaching, and/or “selective reduction”. The latter is a “polite” way of saying abortion. Many times, more than one embryo is implanted and many don’t survive or are culled if found to have abnormalities. I am not sure how anyone can call any of the practices above harmless or OK. The means do not justify the ends.


9 posted on 08/04/2014 4:02:27 AM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: jalisco555; Hetty_Fauxvert

Do either of you think the God who turned His own crucifixion into salvation for the world couldn’t bring beautiful new souls into the world through IVF?

The blessings gained from the act notwithstanding, the act was immoral to begin with.


12 posted on 08/04/2014 4:34:05 AM PDT by Claud
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To: jalisco555; markomalley
An uncalled-for statement. Nobody thinks it is awful that these little children "walk the earth." We think it is awful that their siblings remain in cryo-suspension (they're frozen --- I've heard them called "kid-cicles") or they were destroyed, plain-out exterminated like an infestation of maggots; we think it is awful they are the bought-and-paid-for product of a fertility lab which would have culled them if they manifested an unmarketable defect.

Even if their parents have the best will in the world for them, they turned them into commodities by the way they were conceived.

Nobody on this forum has yet willed total machine-based "hatchery" gestation; and yet many have willed every single incremental step that will lead up to this horrific conclusion.

14 posted on 08/04/2014 4:59:06 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr. / Billie Holiday)
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