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To: jalisco555

My IVF-conceived twin boys would have a blast at your nieces’ party! :)

My husband’s and my twins are healthy, happy, well-behaved, homeschooled, learning to think for themselves, and — I hope — future conservatives. I don’t think we have too much to apologize for.


3 posted on 08/04/2014 2:34:33 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

The joy that my nieces have brought to the lives of everyone around them, particularly my brother and sister-in-law, is incalculable. I’m sure the same is true of your twins. As for the girls’ politics, though, I’m not sure they really have any. But they’re young.


4 posted on 08/04/2014 2:38:13 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Except that they will never know their real biological father.


18 posted on 08/04/2014 6:38:54 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; jalisco555; markomalley
Hetty, this one's for you, too: #14.

I unreservedly wish the best for you and your children.God bless you, and may they thrive in your love and care.

It's not a question of whether the children are good. The children are good, period --- whether or not they are smart, cute, funny, or future conservatives. A child is good per se, no matter what the circumstances of his begetting and birthing.

But the separate and distinct thing we want to consider, is whether the way in which he was conceived is good.

Because --- as you and I know, as everybody knows --- there are regrettable ways that a child can be conceived, and we can find some of those ways morally objectionable, even if we would find the child a sheer delight.

Children are conceived by silly drunk foolin' around by college students, by prostitution, by reproductive concubinage (surrogacy), by rape, by artificial insemination of single women and lesbians, in acts of anger, in acts of greed, in acts of sexual jihad, in acts of marital deception, in laboratory procedures linked to commercial transactions.

About that last one: is it not true that the IVF lab/clinic would consider it their "ethical" responsibility to discard any human zygote they found to be affectd by some sort of defect, before implantation?

And is it not true that IVF produces offspring which are regarded by law as property rather than as persons? (If you have any doubts, take a good hard look at "Davis vs Davis" Maryville TN embryo case LINK)

Is it not true that, as a result, human embryos can legally be bought, sold, bequeathed to somebody as part of an estate, manipulated with intentionally lethal results, given away, regarded as a tortuous offense in a wrongful birth case, stored like a dubious package at the back of the freezer, or discarded?

We can affirm the God-Blessed existence of the child, without approving of the way he was conceived. "Reproductive circumstances" and "valuing the child" are two separate issues.

Everyone can sincerely wish IVF parents and their children well, without thinking the laboratory concoction and/or commercial reproduction of children is a good thing .

25 posted on 08/04/2014 7:54:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr. / Billie Holiday)
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