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To: Talisker

Talisker, I realize you probably have no factual information to oppose anything I am saying with so I’ll help you out here:

“LOL, so the Cathars attacked the representatives of the Church who were trying to judge them as heretics and burned them at the stake. A full 90 times over 90 years?”

That was what was discovered by one historian writing one book about one region - and he doesn’t claim it is a complete list. And, as I pointed it out, the list included acts of violence against those who were converts, church officials, etc. who were viewed as associated in some way with the inquisition. The list does not include the numerous other acts of violence against people NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE INQUISITION. Also, it is merely your assumption that any of the suspected Cathars would have been executed. Executions were rare considering the total number of cases. The overwhelming, vast majority, of Cathars were not burned at the stake. Most only had to make an abjuration and do penance for a period of time and that was it.

“But you also say that the Cathars attacked even Catholics who were NOT attacking them - even though you don’t have any records of that.”

That’s false. I never said I have no such records. I have no convenient LIST as the one compiled by Given. I have read dozens and dozens of books and articles on the inquisition over the last few years. A number of them have stories of acts of violence by Cathars but I did not compile a list as Given did (and his is only on acts specifically against those associated with the inquisition in ONE region only). One day perhaps I’ll do that, but not today.

“But you KNOW they attacked Catholics everywhere BECAUSE there are no records of this.”

It amazes me how cornered Protestants always turn to making things up. I know there was Cather violence against Catholics because I have read numerous accounts of it. I never said there were no records of that. I have no convenient list of it. Again, one day perhaps I’ll compile one, but not today.

The rest of what you posted is essentially little more than nonsense because so much of it predicated on something no one even said.

Why do Protestant anti-Catholics almost routinely make false claims as to what Catholics did and did not say? I never once claimed I had no records of Cathar violence against non inquisitors. Yet you completely make that up by saying, “But you KNOW they attacked Catholics everywhere BECAUSE there are no records of this.” FALSE. I never made that claim. EVER.


602 posted on 07/15/2014 3:19:12 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
LOL, look who'se talking about "facts." What about the fact of YOU? What about the fact of what YOU are claiming to be the current teachings of the Catholic Church - the murder of of those who disagree? You WANT "heretics" murdered. You PRAISE the murder of "heretics." You AGREE with the murder of "heretics." You believe that Catholicism TEACHES the murder of disbelievers and absolves itself by rephrasing it as the "execution of heretics" or the "ending of the problem." You're completely insane.

The Catholic Church IN NO WAY supports your screeds and your lies and your twists and turns and incredible hatred and perversion of its teachings. You mind is drenched in blood and there's no way out - you doubled and then tripled down on it. And then YOU talk about "factual" information? You, who slander the beliefs of entire RACES of murdered people and shout "praise be to God"!? Go drink your blood, maniac. You are the enemy of the entire human race.

I told you, you jumped the shark. You supported mass murder in the name of the Church - game over. There is nothing else you can say after that, fool. You blood-slandered not only the Cathars and Albigensians, but every Catholic alive today. The stench of your peversion surrounds you like a cloud from hell.

Yes, I'm angry, Someone claims the Catholic Church teaches the mass murder of those who disagree with it, it makes me angry. You should be banned for life from Free Republic for making your sick, twisted claims under the protection of "Religion." What you've said on this thread is satanic - and you know it.

612 posted on 07/15/2014 3:35:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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