The Hermeneutic of...Oh I Give Up.

Creative Minority Report ^ | 07/11/14 | Patrick Archbold

[ebb tide]

There is no particular need for us to ‘recognize’ each other, as Yeshua plainly pointed out with the parable of the Tares.

So how do you know I'm not one of you?

[PieterCasparzen]

I would recommend that any Church that conforms to the Westminster Confession of Faith; exclusive Psalmody, etc., would be a good choice.

There is more than one denomination that fits this category, and none of them claims an exclusive monopoly on salvation, so there is a choice for the seeker.

There may or may not be one in your area, but if you’re serious, you can search the internet.

I will message you to explain my position on anonymity.

[editor-surveyor]

Yeshua is the son.

Don’t you have a Bible?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “If you’re trying to save my soul, tell me what religion(s) I need to convert to.” <<

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No religion!

Religion is of men and Satan. We need the Way of Yeshua, and nothing invented by men.
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[editor-surveyor]

When did I ever say you are not?

[CynicalBear]

>> Now I know why there are so many Protestant religions. Y’all can’t agree on anything.<<

Oh but you are wrong. We agree on all that is salvidic. A small disagreement on an issue like whether the New Jerusalem is the “church” has nothing to do with salvation. Now who to pray to or through is a major issue.

[ebb tide]

I would recommend that any Church that conforms to the Westminster Confession of Faith; exclusive Psalmody, etc., would be a good choice.

Ahh! Good old Martin Luther, the father of the first Protestant Church.

As you have said, it doesn't hurt to read something:

Catholics and Lutherans Prepare to Commemorate 2017

[ebb tide]

We agree on all that is salvidic.

Do you all really agree? Do you all believe that non repented sodomites are in God's grace and will be granted eternal life in Heaven?

[PieterCasparzen]

We agree on all that is salvidic.

Do you all really agree? Do you all believe that non repented sodomites are in God's grace and will be granted eternal life in Heaven?

Come now, read the posts, or we're just going in circles.

I made a lengthy "puritanical" "harsh" post a while back about just that.

Think "the pilgrims", you know, from Thanksgiving ?

I keep saying "Westminster Confession of Faith" and you don't respond to any of it. I'll have to copy it in.

[PieterCasparzen]

I would recommend that any Church that conforms to the Westminster Confession of Faith; exclusive Psalmody, etc., would be a good choice.

Ahh! Good old Martin Luther, the father of the first Protestant Church.

As you have said, it doesn't hurt to read something:

Catholics and Lutherans Prepare to Commemorate 2017

Martin Luther is pretty far from Reformed Presbyterianism. If you want to debate specific Reformers, John Knox would be a better starting point, but he of course is just a man and by no means perfect.

Serious Reformed Christians do not place any reverence on the Reformers. The individual men are simply scholars, preachers, etc., there is simply no veneration of men in the Reformed Church, no one has any special status. That's one of the big "points" of the Reformation.

[Jacob Kell]

Are the Orthodox, and Coptic Churches just chopped liver then?

[Jacob Kell]

If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.

Actually, Christianity was founded in 33.

[PieterCasparzen]

The Westminster Confession of Faith (1646)

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Table of Contents

1. Chapter I Of the Holy Scripture
2. Chapter II Of God, and of the Holy Trinity
3. Chapter III Of God's Eternal Decree
4. Chapter IV Of Creation
5. Chapter V Of Providence
6. Chapter VI Of the Fall of Man, of Sin, and the Punishment thereof
7. Chapter VII Of God's Covenant with Man
8. Chapter VIII Of Christ the Mediator
9. Chapter IX Of Free Will
10. Chapter X Of Effectual Calling
11. Chapter XI Of Justification
12. Chapter XII Of Adoption
13. Chapter XIII Of Sanctification
14. Chapter XIV Of Saving Faith
15. Chapter XV Of Repentance unto Life
16. Chapter XVI Of Good Works
17. Chapter XVII Of the Perseverance Of the Saints
18. Chapter XVIII Of Assurance Of Grace and Salvation
19. Chapter XIX Of the Law Of God
20. Chapter XX Of Christian Liberty, and Liberty Of Conscience
21. Chapter XXI Of Religious Worship, and the Sabbath Dayå
22. Chapter XXII Of Lawful Oaths and Vows
23. Chapter XXIII Of the Civil Magistrate
24. Chapter XXIV Of Marriage and Divorce
25. Chapter XXV Of the Church
26. Chapter XXVI Of the Communion Of Saints
27. Chapter XXVII Of the Sacraments
28. Chapter XXVIII Of Baptism
29. Chapter XXIX Of the Lord's Supper
30. Chapter XXX Of Church Censures
31. Chapter XXXI Of Synods and Councils
32. Chapter XXXII Of the State Of Men after Death, and Of the Resurrection Of the Dead
33. Chapter XXXIII Of the Last Judgment

[CynicalBear]

>>Do you all believe that non repented sodomites are in God's grace and will be granted eternal life in Heaven?<<

What a stupid question. You take non repented as “not salvidic”?

[PieterCasparzen]

Post 213 above has links to doctrinal positions of the WCF 1646.

If you’re debating with me, those are the positions that I hold to.

[Salvation]

Did you mean salvific?

salvific

Houghton Mifflin

adj.adjective

1.Having the intention or power to bring about salvation or redemption.

[CynicalBear]

How interesting. Indeed I should have spelled it the way I wanted. I type my posts in Word because I can have larger print (eyesight) and it corrected my spelling to read “salfidic” rather than “salvific” which I had typed. I suppose now I even have to be “Cynical” of the spell check in Word. Thanks for the heads up.

[Salvation]

I know it’s hard. I am always correcting typos I make.

[PieterCasparzen]

lol, “spell check” can wind up being a “word change” feature.

[Jacob Kell]

The Vatican itself doesn’t agree with Sister Marian’s extreme viewpoint. It recognises all other Christian denominations as Christian. Sure, they may not be as old as the Catholic Church, or have as direct a lineage to the Church of the Apostles, but they’re still at least more or less Christian. This means that Marian, by her standard, is dissenting from the Catholic Church and thus is not a Christian.