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The Hermeneutic of...Oh I Give Up.
Creative Minority Report ^ | 07/11/14 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by Legatus

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1 posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by Legatus
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I’m not usually one to post something so inflammatory but I’m trying to work this out for myself and can’t.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 8:52:57 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Legatus

In before the flamethrowers and jellied gasoline.


3 posted on 07/12/2014 8:57:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." - Jesus Christ - Matthew 19:17)
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To: Legatus

I read somewhere that the different Churches were for the different people.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 9:00:31 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Legatus

I generally try to stay away from deep theology. No one seems to agree with anyone on all the details.

I picture evangelists, such as the first apostles, going to a land like India and spreading the gospel. Were some people saved? I sure hope so. Did those people understand with great precision all about baptism, confession, communion and other sacraments, purgatory, contraception, etc? Probably some of that stuff went over their heads or didn’t interest them.

I’m thinking that 2000 years ago, people could be saved without getting all the details “right”.

I am a sinner. I know it. I try to be better. My only hope is in Jesus because I don’t deserve to be in heaven, but perhaps through Grace I’ll make it there.

Why fight over divisive doctrine?


5 posted on 07/12/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I became a Catholic because I believed what I thought the Church taught. I believed I had to enter the Church or face eternal hellfire for crying out loud. My father is a retired Nazarene minister, do you have any idea what my conversion did to my parents? (rhetorical) Now it sure looks like if I’d just waited 20 years I could have stayed where I was with papal approval.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 9:05:10 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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In our elite, private all Girl Catholic High school that Jews and people of other faith simply couldn't make it.

We were told not to date them...and come prom time...don't even think about bringing a non-Catholic.

7 posted on 07/12/2014 9:09:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mountainlion
I read somewhere that the different Churches were for the different people.

Is that like "different strokes for different folks"?

8 posted on 07/12/2014 9:11:47 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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I am a sinner. I know it. I try to be better. My only hope is in Jesus because I don’t deserve to be in heaven, but perhaps through Grace I’ll make it there.
Why fight over divisive doctrine?

Extremely well put.

9 posted on 07/12/2014 9:12:48 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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I picture evangelists, such as the first apostles, going to a land like India and spreading the gospel

For your perusal: St. Thomas Christians

10 posted on 07/12/2014 9:13:33 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: cloudmountain

Is that like “different strokes for different folks”?

Don’t be talking strokes to us over 60.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 9:15:55 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I became a Catholic because I believed what I thought the Church taught. I believed I had to enter the Church or face eternal hellfire for crying out loud. My father is a retired Nazarene minister, do you have any idea what my conversion did to my parents? (rhetorical) Now it sure looks like if I’d just waited 20 years I could have stayed where I was with papal approval.

Lol. Looks that way.
I'm sure your parents were devastated, appalled, disappointed and very sad at your conversion. But, I'm sure that they continued to pray and hope for another change of heart from you.
They will always be your folks and you are a product of their genes and upbringing. Since you are HERE they did a WHOLE lot right.

12 posted on 07/12/2014 9:16:29 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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I went to private, Catholic schools all my life (until college--Bezerkley) and I remain ETERNALLY grateful to God and my parents for that upbringing. It held me close during the absurdities of the 60's - present. And I SURE did need it when I got to Bezerkley.

It was a steadfast rudder that guided me FLAWLESSLY.

13 posted on 07/12/2014 9:20:34 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Don’t be talking strokes to us over 60.

Lol, I know what you mean. I am looking at 70 right between the eyes.

I did have both of my lenses replaced, due to VERY EARLY onset of cataracts. However, I was once blind-as-a-bat and still have 20-20 vision. Thank the Lord for Kaiser and its fabulous health plans. Been with'em for DECADES, even when they weren't popular.

14 posted on 07/12/2014 9:23:29 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ClearCase_guy

Truth is important. If you don’t know the truth, you don’t know Jesus. The sword that comes out of his mouth is the truth, because it both penetrates and divides.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 9:26:10 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Sacajaweau

I was taught as a teen to not date Catholics because they were going to hell while you were being taught that I was going to hell and not date worthy as a protestant...

Religious experiences can really suck eggs.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 9:27:09 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“In my Fathers house there are many mansions.” Mr. Jesus H. Christ.


17 posted on 07/12/2014 9:27:27 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Sacajaweau
The reason why you where told not to date them was because mixed faith marriages are often very difficult. Particularly amongst those who highly value and practice their respective religions.

Regardless of what we would like to believe in our secular society. Marriage is NOT for the benefit and happiness of their adherents. It is for the benefit of the children that a sexual act often produces and for the further benefit of the greater society. Often times nonreligious people become religious and even strongly so once they have children.

When people have differences as intimate as their beliefs in God and the idea of eternity and how to gain Paradise, undo pressure is applied to the union often leading to a dissolution of said marriage and a society that has children from broken homes with whom to contend.

The good sisters spoke quite wisely as to whether it was a good idea to date members of other religions as the reason to date is to find a mate.

18 posted on 07/12/2014 9:30:06 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Look I don’t disagree that dating someone with a different religious background can be difficult and that is a legit reason to avoid that.

But as a protestant I was taught that Catholics were going to HELL. As were Orthodox, and probably Lutherans. Jews were famously condemned to hell by Pastor Bailey Smith of the Southern Baptist convention.

I think I will leave condemning to hell to Jesus.

The whole fascination and certainty of hell for other people is not what Christians should be thinking about. Pretty sure that Christians should focus on themselves and not worry about the spiritual status of their neighbors.


19 posted on 07/12/2014 9:38:02 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Legatus

Years ago, my wife and I attended a Serra club dinner for vocations. It was in a gymnasium at a Catholic university and packed with over 1200 faithful. The keynote speaker was a relatively well known, crusty old orthodox priest who pulled no punches. He said in the times we are living, you keep one eye on your local bishop, and the other on the Pope. If the local bishop goes against the Pope, close that eye. The local bishop was in attendance and was not known for his orthodoxy. He was visibly irritated.

I guess the corollary now is, we have two Popes. Keep one eye on each, and if one goes against the teachings of the perennial Church, close that eye.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 9:38:31 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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