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Francis’ Honeymoon is Over – Another Liberal Bites Back
Standing on my head ^ | 6/27/2014 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 06/28/2014 8:30:42 AM PDT by markomalley

Last week Salon ran a hatchet piece on Pope Francis by Anna March. In one of the most ludicrous article I’ve ever read it was suggested that Pope Francis’ nice guy image is nothing more than a PR stunt run by a sinister conservative member of Opus Dei… I commented on March’s piece here.

Today Patricia Miller–a pro-abortion Catholic lets rip about Pope Francis.

At the Huffington Post she declares that Pope Francis has let women down in three ways. Her article is here.

You can predict what three ways the Pope has let women down: First he has not allowed women’s ordination:

Francis said early on that he wouldn’t challenge the teaching of Pope John Paul II that women can never be priests. “The church has spoken and says no… That door is closed,” he said. But many Catholic scholars disagree with John Paul II’s assessment that the church can’t ordain women. It’s more a matter of church tradition, which is itself shaky because there were women priests in the early years of the church, than doctrine. They also disagree with the move by Pope Benedict, when he was still Cardinal Ratzinger and head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, to declare Pope John Paul’s pronouncement essentially infallible.

I love those bald, unsubstantiated statements: “Many Catholic scholars disagree with John Paul II’s assessment…” No names, no reference, no quotes, but Pat says so so it must be true. Of course it could be true that many scholars disagree. Many scholars disagree with lots of stuff. Let’s move on.

Then the most amazingly bald lie of all: “There were women priests in the early years of the church.” Whaaat?! Where’s the evidence? Where did such a flat lie come from? Oh I know…there’s a picture of what might be a women wearing what might possibly look like a chasuble standing with her hands in the orans position…Pat goes on to say that the majority of Catholic in the US support women priests. Even if that were so, do we need to remind Pat that there are more Catholics than those alive in the United States today? The Catholic Church considers the views of all Catholics not only everywhere in the world today, but down through the ages. When you consider that vast number of Catholics the so called majority in favor of women priests is not even miniscule.

Pat goes on:

Ultimately, it’s about who gets to make the rules of the church. If women can’t be priests, they can’t become bishops and cardinals and have a say in formulating church doctrine.

The problem with articles like Pat’s is that they pack so many half truths, utter ignorance and propaganda pieces into one short piece that it’s breathtaking. Pat. Bishops and Cardinals don’t sit around “formulating doctrine” to start with. Neither do priests and bishops. Neither do feminists. The doctrines of the church are already established. Nobody makes them up or formulates them. The pope and the bishops have the simple task of defining and defending doctrine. Where there is confusion they clear it up. Where there is false teaching they correct it.

Pat argues that if women can’t be priests and bishops they have no power. Check Mother Angelica for a woman with no power. Check Mother Teresa for a powerless woman. Check a whole army of brilliant writers, spiritual directors, apologists, evangelists, superiors, artists, theologians and saints who were female and who had great power. Do we need a list? Teresa of Avila, Catherine of Siena, Clare of Assisi, Edith Stein, Flannery O’Connor, Hildegard of Bingen, Etheldreda of Ely…and the list goes on.

The second way Francis has let down women is because he hasn’t budged on artificial contraception and abortion. Pat doesn’t seem to get it that Pope Francis can’t do much about this even if he wants to. This is because the Catholic Church’s teachings on these matters are not “formulated” according to some utilitarian principle, but according to natural law. The Catholic teaching on artificial contraception and abortion isn’t’ determined according to “what seems like a good idea” but according to the way things are. We’re the first to admit that the teachings are difficult, but we don’t change them because they’re impossible.

It’s like the ten commandments. Lying is wrong because it is an absence or a distortion of the truth. In other words, it is not wrong because someone somewhere thought they would “formulate a doctrine”. It’s wrong because it is intrinsically wrong. Same with abortion and artificial contraception. Abortion kills an unborn child. Therefore it’s wrong and we can’t change that anymore than we can change the fact that the sky is blue and water runs downhill. Artificial contraception is wrong because it separates sexual union from making babies and that’s un natural. The pope can’t change that anymore than he can say rain falls up not down.

This seems very easy to understand, so I don’t know why Patricia who is smart and writes books doesn’t get it.

The third one is that Pope Francis has allowed mean old Cardinal Muller to pick on those nice old ladies the weird sisters at LCWR.

Pat says Cardinal Muller was on a witch hunt…

…I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: popefrancis; romancatholicism; salon

1 posted on 06/28/2014 8:30:42 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Opus Dei and Jesuits don’t mix. On that basis alone, the premise is ridiculous.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 8:38:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: markomalley

bump


3 posted on 06/28/2014 8:47:30 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: markomalley

Until he bows at the altar of abortion, libs will devour him.


4 posted on 06/28/2014 8:48:19 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: markomalley

This is what happens when you depend on Dan Brown as an historian. Sigh...


5 posted on 06/28/2014 8:49:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: markomalley

**The third one is that Pope Francis has allowed mean old Cardinal Muller to pick on those nice old ladies the weird sisters at LCWR.

Pat says Cardinal Muller was on a witch hunt…

…I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.**

ROFLOL!


6 posted on 06/28/2014 8:56:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

You mean that Catholic Church Doctrine isn’t a living document like our constitution?! ;-)


7 posted on 06/28/2014 9:19:33 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: markomalley
Patricia Miller–a pro-abortion Catholic


8 posted on 06/28/2014 9:49:35 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Ted Grant
Until he bows at the altar of abortion, libs will devour him.

...and the homosexual community.

9 posted on 06/28/2014 10:02:51 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: painter

Eventually, he will do both.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 10:34:20 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Dr. Thorne

That’s a lie.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 10:49:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Kyrie eleison (40x))
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To: Dr. Thorne

“Eventually, he will do both”

You will be sorely disappointed.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 11:41:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: markomalley

Do you think Pope Francis cares? I don’t think he does.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 12:59:06 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

According to anti-Catholics, St. Josemaria Escriva once said:

“I would prefer a million times that a daughter of mine die without the Last Sacraments than that they be administered to her by a Jesuit.”

I have no idea if he ever said that, but a number of anti-Catholic websites have that quote - no source is given of course so I have no idea if it is an accurate quote.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 2:33:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: markomalley
March and Miller’s articles, among others, are proof of the hazards of believing your own spin. Oh, yeah, and so was The Advocate picking Francis over Edie Windsor of DOMA-lawsuit fame for their person of the year last year. I’m still looking forward to that meltdown.
15 posted on 06/28/2014 3:02:02 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: vladimir998

If it were an accurate quote, it would reflect a deficient understanding of the Sacraments, which hardly seems reasonable. Unless it was a joke ... but I’ve read a couple of books and various Bible commentaries of Fr. Escriva’s, and humor was not prominent.

One never knows about people, of course ...


16 posted on 06/29/2014 3:23:28 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

No,he will not.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 1:01:05 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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