Posted on 05/25/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Today, May 23, is the anniversary of King Henry VIII’s divorce from Catherine of Aragon — the event which started the English Reformation.
In 2003, Charles Clarke, Tony Blair’s Secretary of State for Education and Skills, expressed strong views on the teaching of British history.
I don’t mind there being some medievalists around for ornamental purposes, but there is no reason for the state to pay for them.
In response, Michael Biddiss, professor of medieval history at Reading University, suggested that Mr Clarke’s view may have been informed by Khrushchev’s notion that historians are dangerous people, capable of upsetting everything.
In many ways, Khrushchev was correct. Historians can be a distinct threat — both those who create “official” history, and those who work quietly to unpick it, filling in the irksome and unhelpful details.
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I didn’t mention Pedophilia, I mentioned that they are famous for sex scandals involving male on male sex.
Indeed, we should immediately fire all those Tolkien-like experts in Old English language and literature. The money would be better spent on welfare for muslim immigrants to the UK.
The UK held some notable celebrations in honor their first and greatest king's 1000th and 1100th anniversaries. Although many British articles written about him don't even mention it, Alfred the Great was Catholic and he believed that the duty of the king, above all other duties, was to uphold the faith. Which he did. If he were alive toady, I wonder what Alfred would think of Henry VIII, or of the present royals of England?
You have been told the truth, if you choose to disregard it, it is all on you.
1929 Lambeth conference permits the use of artificial contraception by a main stream religion. Leading to abortion as a common form of birth control. Only the Catholic Stands against it.
1980's A number of protestant religions ordain Female pastors and ministers. A practice found nowhere in the Bible. The Anglicans permit an openly gay Bishop and then permit his same sex marriage.
Protestants have a very funny definition of "better place."
I will refrain. And FWIW, I agree: it was an inflammatory remark, most hasty and unwise, and I apologize.
You want to return to 1000 AD?
What will you do with the Christians. who don’t want to be members of the Catholic denomination?
You want to return to peasantry and Kings and Inquisitors?
If you don’t like modern liberalism in America, then perhaps you can talk the Catholics into not voting for it, and for them to vote like Protestants, and then help stop this flood of Catholics into the nation who keep moving us even farther left.
JFK knew what he was doing when he devoted his life to a plan to replace the protestant Christian voters.
Henry the VIII was quite a Catholic as well.
What will you do with the Christians. who don’t want to be members of the Catholic denomination?
You want to return to peasantry and Kings and Inquisitors?
How on earth did you get this from a legitimate criticism of the decline of protestant morality?
Protestants ran from other protestants and come to America.
Then when all those protestants got together in America they fought like cats and dogs. And in one little town in Mass those “Puritans” turned you into crispy critters or hung you from a tree if they thought you were possessed by the devil.
How Protestantism fueled Europe’s deadly witch craze
“As the reformers set about ridding the world of these devilish handmaidens, the great burnings began, peaking in the late 1500s and early 1600s, before petering out in the early 1700s. In that time, somewhere between 40,000 and 10,000 people (predominantly, but not exclusively, women) were torched alive on suspicion of practising magic”
Problem is you and we have no idea who actually made it to heaven...Why pray to someone who may not even be there...
Jesus says to pray directly to God and you people insist on praying to someone who may not even be in the presence of God...
Crazy...
As part of the Ten Commandments, God said: “I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God.” (Exodus 20:5, NAB) In what way is God “jealous”? The footnote in the New American Bible says that he is “demanding exclusive allegiance.” God demands that acts of allegiance or worship—including prayer—be directed exclusively to him.—Isaiah 48:11.
We offend God if we pray to anyone else, even to saints or holy angels. When the apostle John tried to worship an angel, the angel stopped him by saying: “Don’t! I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brothers who bear witness to Jesus. Worship God.”—Revelation 19:10, NAB.
Because it is completely scriptural: Revelation 8:3-4 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God's people, on the golden altar in front of the throne.The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's hand.
Your response doesn't answer the question...Those prayers those angels are carrying are not prayers to angels...They are prayers to God...
Those angels can not answer any prayers...They can not find you car keys...They can not help sell your house...They can not provide protection whether on the highway or in the casino...
Your version is like sending a letter to the postman and expecting him to contact your aunt Bertha and asking her to send you some cash...
But this entire scenario is beyond the timeline for the Christian in this age...It's like you guys have no clue who the Holy Spirit is...
You don't believe that Christians are in Heaven?
All Christians are in heaven...But no one knows besides God who the real Christian is...Just because someone stuck the name of Saint on someone in your religion doesn't mean the 'Saint' actually made it to heaven...
Silly boy, you are confusing petition with worship. Feel free to have the last word, I will stand with the Bible.
Tell me again how heaven is in outer space.
But if someone dies a Christian according to you, they are in Heaven. Therefore whether that person has a title of “Saint” is irrelevant. If that person died a Christian then he/she is in Heaven and one can know who they are praying to for intercession. You said that a person could not know who was in Heaven.
why ... penalties for Christians who did not want to be a member of the [Catholic Church]
While such penalties would be impossible in modern (past couple of centuries) America, there is nothing out of the ordinary for religious affiliation being enforced by national laws. That is because in the Middle Ages religion was understood to be the foundation of the state; one professing a different religion than the dominant one was considered a traitor. The modern thinking is that religion is free choice; but the historical thinking was that heresy is treason.
As Protestantism gained acceptance, for example, in parts of Germany and in England, equally brutal laws were put in place against the Catholics. In England, for example, being a Catholic priest was a capital offence.
Let's not make this too complicated...Only God and the person God deemed to be a real Christian is in heaven...Regardless of what one claims on earth, only God and the Christian knows the Christian is in heaven...
The best we can do is hope the person who claimed to be a Christian on earth had a real heart change to become a real Christian...None of us knows for certain what our friends and relatives or pastors or popes or Saints had in their hearts...
Therefore, the only one we know for certain is in heaven is God...He's the one we need to pray to...
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